Power conditioners
Power conditioners
Do you need a power conditioner and if so, a couple of recommendations would be nice.
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Re: Power conditioners
Not really.
If the power of the venue is junk enough to hear it through your rig, balanced isolation transformers can sometimes fix the issue.




If the power of the venue is junk enough to hear it through your rig, balanced isolation transformers can sometimes fix the issue.




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Big money for the real deal.
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Re: Power conditioners
The only 'conditioner' that really works is a 110-0-110 to 55-0-55 volt transformer, providing balanced A/C, connected to a 220 outlet. Very large, heavy and expensive, so it's very much a permanent install item for studios.
Everything else is basically snake-oil.
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I've always wondered if one or more of those huge capacitors that you get for car audio would help smooth out ragged mains power?
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Only if you have DC mains in your neck of the woods.Dave Non-Zero wrote:I've always wondered if one or more of those huge capacitors that you get for car audio would help smooth out ragged mains power?
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Haha yeah ok then maybe not. Good point.
Think Tesla showed Edison that wasn't a good idea. 


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Tesla showed Edison everything...lol..hehe
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But Edison showed Tesla the door.NCcrashman wrote:Tesla showed Edison everything...lol..hehe
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So save the extra $$$
and don't buy something like
and don't buy something like
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Re: Power conditioners
The nicer Furmans are good to have if for nothing other than the built-in voltmeter. I have one in my amp rack so I can see what I'm getting from the wall or generators.
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Don't spend more than $50 is the rule.Rockboy wrote:So save the extra $$$
and don't buy something like
A voltmeter is a feel-good feature IMO. If the voltage is off what are you going to do about it? Walk out on the gig?
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Well then you break out you Analysis Plus Oval series IEC power cable... it will solve all your problems...
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Re: Power conditioners
Not plug anything into the Generator that's supplying >130V and tell the event organizers that it's unnacceptable because I've killed power conditioners in those scenarios or adjust the generator's output voltage if that's a possibility. A multi-meter would work as well, but then I have to carry one separately. If it's built into at least one of my conditioners I can plug that in and check. It's the first thing I do when dealing with an unknown generator.Bill Fitzmaurice wrote:Don't spend more than $50 is the rule.Rockboy wrote:So save the extra $$$
and don't buy something like
A voltmeter is a feel-good feature IMO. If the voltage is off what are you going to do about it? Walk out on the gig?
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I've experienced voltage drops down to 92vacBill Fitzmaurice wrote:Don't spend more than $50 is the rule.Rockboy wrote:So save the extra $$$
and don't buy something like
A voltmeter is a feel-good feature IMO. If the voltage is off what are you going to do about it? Walk out on the gig?
Mind you, this was in the Leland building in Detroit. I should have walked off the gig as it was a non-paying show and the low voltage killed my BBE DS48 (promptly replaced by BBE a week later)
The furman did nothing to save anything plugged in. It is nothing more then a surge strip thats rackmountable.
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