Holy crap, full retail on Pl premium is 6.49. My local guys get 5.99.bradn7 wrote:Just an update, I puchased 4 tubes of the PL at a cost of roughly 8 dollars a tube after tax. Tonight Dad and I are planning on getting started cutting wood and seeing chips fly.
Starting my own Titan 48 Adventure
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If it's too loud, you're even older than me! Like me.
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Re: Starting my own Titan 48 Adventure
LelandCrooks wrote:Holy crap, full retail on Pl premium is 6.49. My local guys get 5.99.bradn7 wrote:Just an update, I puchased 4 tubes of the PL at a cost of roughly 8 dollars a tube after tax. Tonight Dad and I are planning on getting started cutting wood and seeing chips fly.
Wow, cheap here, $4.67 at Lowes.
Re: Starting my own Titan 48 Adventure
Bill, my plans say on Page one paragraph two that the least expensive recommended driver is the Kappa 15LF. Do I have old plans? Later in that same paragraph it says the upgrade eminence drivers include the Kappa Pro15LF. Which are the ones I am planning on building. Right now I cannot afford going with the KappaLite 3015's. Eventually I would like to switch to those.
As for the PL cost, That is from a local vender and I prefer to spend as much of my money in my hometown if I can. So the extra 2 bucks doesn't bother me. Hopefully I just won't have to buy too many of those if so than I will never be able to afford those 3015's.
As for the PL cost, That is from a local vender and I prefer to spend as much of my money in my hometown if I can. So the extra 2 bucks doesn't bother me. Hopefully I just won't have to buy too many of those if so than I will never be able to afford those 3015's.
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They also say this:bradn7 wrote:Bill, my plans say on Page one paragraph two that the least expensive recommended driver is the Kappa 15LF.
Maximum output isn’t about watts, it’s about driver displacement (T/S spec Vd). The Kappa 15LF has 471cc Vd, the Kappa Pro 15LF 507cc, so the Pro is only slightly louder. The Lab 15 Vd is 968cc, so it’s equivalent to two Kappa 15LF, justifying its weight and price if you’ve got more money than pack space. When comparing various drivers don’t look at the watts, look at the displacement.
You said you're building four K15LF loaded cabs. Two loaded with 3015LF or Lab 15 would be almost as loud. Four loaded with the 3015LF or Lab 15 would be almost as loud as eight with the K15LF. If you've got the means and the muscle to haul around twice as many cabs then by all means go with the less expensive driver, just be sure of what and why you're doing what you're doing before you do it.
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Re: Starting my own Titan 48 Adventure
If your plans don't have a front loaded driver, then they are out of date.
Built:
6xDR200, 2xT39, 2xT48, 2xJack110, 1xOmni10.5, 1xAutotuba, 1xT18, 1xSLA Pro, 1xW8, 1xW10
6xDR200, 2xT39, 2xT48, 2xJack110, 1xOmni10.5, 1xAutotuba, 1xT18, 1xSLA Pro, 1xW8, 1xW10
Re: Starting my own Titan 48 Adventure
I understand what your saying now, Bill. I just can't afford 500 dollars for two 3015's right now. I have a gig that I am hoping to have these ready for in 3 weeks. Eventually I will switch to 3015's when I am more financially able to. If I get a nice tax return I'll make sure to put that toward the 3015's and the rest toward building two more 48's. I am really looking forward to hearing these in person.
My plans are the front loaded version. So I believe they are up to date.
My plans are the front loaded version. So I believe they are up to date.
Re: Starting my own Titan 48 Adventure
Some of the best advice I got here was to bite the bullet and get the premium driver. I have a sub worth two subs with lesser drivers. Reworking the cabinet to make it fit costs you time and the money spent on the first drivers. If you don't have the money now, you won't have it later either. Save yourself the pain in hauling, rebuilding and rebuying. If it means you build one, then start with one.
AudioFlyer DJ: DR200 & Titan39/Titan48
BASS: Combo Amp & Titan39
BASS: Combo Amp & Titan39
Re: Starting my own Titan 48 Adventure
Just FYI/throwing it out there. Bill has stated there is zero performance diff b/t the old and new T48 plans. The difference is:
Old plans: Easier to build but driver mounting is a PITA. (I can wholeheartedly attest to that!)
New plans: More difficult to build (more small/angled pieces) but driver mounting is cake (Literally, drop it in and screw down from the front.
Old plans: Easier to build but driver mounting is a PITA. (I can wholeheartedly attest to that!)
New plans: More difficult to build (more small/angled pieces) but driver mounting is cake (Literally, drop it in and screw down from the front.
T48 build thread: http://billfitzmaurice.info/forum/viewt ... 30&t=20315
OTop12 build thread: http://billfitzmaurice.info/forum/viewt ... 30&t=19214
OTop12 build thread: http://billfitzmaurice.info/forum/viewt ... 30&t=19214
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Re: Starting my own Titan 48 Adventure
As daunting as it might appear, I have built the new version of T48 and I had zero problems. Just follow the directions to the letter, measure carefully and clamp up the assembly. Dry fit the parts and measure again. Glue, screw and wait. I let the assembly tighten up overnight before attempting anything else. I started building two at a time. By the time the first two were halfway, I started the next two. Things moved smoothly and I was methodical. Once the access openings were done, all four were at the same stage and were completed as a group.
http://billfitzmaurice.info/forum/viewt ... 30&t=20434
Hope this helps.
http://billfitzmaurice.info/forum/viewt ... 30&t=20434
Hope this helps.
BFM rig:
6 OT12
4 T48
4 WH8
Other:
56 box Electrotec LabQ rig
Way too many cables

6 OT12
4 T48
4 WH8
Other:
56 box Electrotec LabQ rig
Way too many cables

Re: Starting my own Titan 48 Adventure
Well there went 480 dollars for 2 3015lfs. Free shipping from parts express. They should be in within the week. The cabinets will be 24 inches because looking at more than just my outside gigs I won't have enough pack space and the 36s are looking to be a challenge to get indoors.
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bradn7 wrote:Well there went 480 dollars for 2 3015lfs. Free shipping from parts express. They should be in within the week.
It hurts the pocket, but good on you!
If it makes you feel any better, recommended retail where I am for a pair of the same drivers would be $1080AU
Never forget the cabs are only 24" deep, regardless of width. If you have to turn them sideways at the doorways, it's not like the cabs are so unwieldy that can't be done.bradn7 wrote:The cabinets will be 24 inches because looking at more than just my outside gigs I won't have enough pack space and the 36s are looking to be a challenge to get indoors.
Maximise your investment in the drivers, if you can fudge the pack space somehow, build as wide as possible...
Built:
DR 250: x 2 melded array, 2x CD horn, March 2012 plans.
T39's: 4 x 20" KL3010LF , 2 x 28" 3012LF.
WH8: x 6 with melded array wired series/parallel.
Bunter's Audio and Lighting "like"s would be most appreciated...
DR 250: x 2 melded array, 2x CD horn, March 2012 plans.
T39's: 4 x 20" KL3010LF , 2 x 28" 3012LF.
WH8: x 6 with melded array wired series/parallel.
Bunter's Audio and Lighting "like"s would be most appreciated...
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Re: Starting my own Titan 48 Adventure
Did you consider buying from SpeakerHardware right there in Kansas? His price on those same speakers is only $460......and he's a good guy....and he's one of us....well, he may not claim that...bradn7 wrote:Well there went 480 dollars for 2 3015lfs. Free shipping from parts express. They should be in within the week. The cabinets will be 24 inches because looking at more than just my outside gigs I won't have enough pack space and the 36s are looking to be a challenge to get indoors.

6 - T39 3012LF
4 - OT12 2512
1 - T24
1 - SLA Pro
2 - XF210
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Re: Starting my own Titan 48 Adventure
and he's offering free US freight currently...
Built:
2x Tuba 30s delta12lf loaded (gone)
4x Otop12 d2512 loaded
8x t48s (18, 18, 24, 24, 30, 30) 3015lf loaded
2x AT (1 mcm, 1 gto 804)
2x SLA Pro (dayton pa6, 6 goldwood piezo loaded)
1x bastard XF208
2x OT212 (delta pro 450a loaded, eminence psd)
2x Tuba 30s delta12lf loaded (gone)
4x Otop12 d2512 loaded
8x t48s (18, 18, 24, 24, 30, 30) 3015lf loaded
2x AT (1 mcm, 1 gto 804)
2x SLA Pro (dayton pa6, 6 goldwood piezo loaded)
1x bastard XF208
2x OT212 (delta pro 450a loaded, eminence psd)
Re: Starting my own Titan 48 Adventure
Glad to hear you bit the bullet and bought the recommended premium drivers. Buy once, cry once. .
T48 build thread: http://billfitzmaurice.info/forum/viewt ... 30&t=20315
OTop12 build thread: http://billfitzmaurice.info/forum/viewt ... 30&t=19214
OTop12 build thread: http://billfitzmaurice.info/forum/viewt ... 30&t=19214
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Sales tax. I'd have to charge it, and site would add it automatically. Drop me a line if you need anything else. questions@speakerhardware.com
Thanks for recommending me Bruce.
Thanks for recommending me Bruce.
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