Scale Of a Typical Band PA

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Scale Of a Typical Band PA

#1 Post by LelandCrooks »

Here's a group of cabs I just finished. Thought maybe someone would like to see what kind of size a typical BFM PA is. DR250's, T48's, WH10's.
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#2 Post by drihanek »

Leland, would you typically stand those stacks like that? I mean are they tall enough to project over the audience or would you have to use stands for the tops? And how many people could you do a rock concert for with that set up? By the way they look great!

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Throw in some mic stands an amp rack and digital board and you got a complete PA for a small band and can haul it in a MiniVan and shake the room to boot! Very nice representation Leland. :clap:

That should provide some incentive to someone to get started! :hyper:
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drihanek wrote:Leland, would you typically stand those stacks like that? I mean are they tall enough to project over the audience or would you have to use stands for the tops?
You almost always use stands for tops, and almost never split subs. Why? :iitp:
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I've covered 300 outside with pretty much that same setup.
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No scale.

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#7 Post by Chris_Allen »

I keep forgetting how big the WH10's are.
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Chris_Allen wrote:I keep forgetting how big the WH10's are.
I've never seen them against another build, but those puppies are huge! :roll: Leleand, thanks for posting the picture.
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Chris_Allen wrote:I keep forgetting how big the WH10's are.
Not much different from what they compete against, like these:
http://www.yoursoundsource.com/electrovoice-xw15a.html

But a world of difference in dispersion. :mrgreen:

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#10 Post by LelandCrooks »

The door in the background is a 6'8" 3'0. The t48's are 24 wide.
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Bill Fitzmaurice wrote:
Chris_Allen wrote:I keep forgetting how big the WH10's are.
Not much different from what they compete against, like these:
http://www.yoursoundsource.com/electrovoice-xw15a.html

But a world of difference in dispersion. :mrgreen:
True and true.
I'm still contemplating on building a WH10. The WH (8") is very small :clap: AND VERY loud :shock: :hyper:.

Thanks for the picture, Leland!
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2x T48 21" 3015LF; 1x T48 24" 2xBP102; 1x DR250 2510 loaded, cross firing; 4x DR200 Beta 8, melded array; 1x TT HL-10c; 2x WH Beta 8, melded 'array'; 3x AT 15" Tang Band W8-740P; 1x AT 15" JBL GTO1014

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#12 Post by drihanek »

Ok, the sub arrangement thing is something that I have never seen before. (I know you could crack jokes here, but work with me). So what to you do if center floor space and corners are not an option. For example in a lot of churches I find myself in there is just enough room off to the sides to stand a Titan 39 in or in the case of my church the subs have to be flown?

Also, can you v-couple sides or should every sub be in the same place stacked and v coupled?

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#13 Post by Bill Fitzmaurice »

Ok, the sub arrangement thing is something that I have never seen before.
Then you've never seen a system set up by someone who knows what they're doing. But I'd say at least 90% of 'professionals' don't.
drihanek wrote:For example in a lot of churches I find myself in there is just enough room off to the sides to stand a Titan 39
Then that's where you put it.
in or in the case of my church the subs have to be flown?
Subs should only be flown when they're close enough to boundary load off the ceiling.

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And another thanks for showing DR250 and WH10 together. I'd like to hear WH10 for bass backline, but if I ever get to build vocal wedges, I am now convinced they will be WH8.

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AntonZ wrote:And another thanks for showing DR250 and WH10 together. I'd like to hear WH10 for bass backline, but if I ever get to build vocal wedges, I am now convinced they will be WH8.
Hey Anton,
Maybe next year, after I've moved (yes, we bought a house :hyper: ) I will build a WH10 :fingers: . If you're down south again, we can arrange a listen, I WILL have room for it then :wink: (AND the rest of the system :twisted: ). BTW, how's your Omni 10.5 doing? Any better on the lows?
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2x T48 21" 3015LF; 1x T48 24" 2xBP102; 1x DR250 2510 loaded, cross firing; 4x DR200 Beta 8, melded array; 1x TT HL-10c; 2x WH Beta 8, melded 'array'; 3x AT 15" Tang Band W8-740P; 1x AT 15" JBL GTO1014

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