Plywood - can I go mdf ?

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#16 Post by DJPhatman »

Tim Ard wrote:
DJPhatman wrote: once my shoulder repair is rehab'ed.
How's that going DJ? Any improvement?
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#17 Post by Bill Fitzmaurice »

jfr1111 wrote:
I'll probably go back and take a good look @ the fir.
Fir is OK for a carpet finish, gosh awful with paint or DuraTex. Find a local kitchen cabinet maker and find out where he gets his plywood. BTW, 90% of the plywood sold in the northern half of the US comes from Canada, and most of that from Quebec. There's probably a mill within 20 miles of your home. Most of the BB comes from Russia and Finland into QC and Montreal by ship and is sent to the US from there.

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#18 Post by jfr1111 »

Fir is OK for a carpet finish, gosh awful with paint or DuraTex. Find a local kitchen cabinet maker and find out where he gets his plywood. BTW, 90% of the plywood sold in the northern half of the US comes from Canada, and most of that from Quebec. There's probably a mill within 20 miles of your home. Most of the BB comes from Russia and Finland into QC and Montreal by ship and is sent to the US from there.
Good advice. I'll be using carpet though, since I actually prefer rat fur over Duratex: I've carpeted audio speakers before, so there's that. Also, this cab won't see the road often and we have very good and (muscular) friends that insure that no bodily fluids taint the equipment so smell/dirtyness of carpet is not an issue.

I'll phone some kitchen cabinet makers around here and ask where they get their BB. Chances are, its from the same source (Huskyplywood then Robert Burey) that I talked about in my previous post. Maybe if I got there in person they'll be more receptive: I know that when I used to work retails, I disliked people phoning to ask questions that would be better suited to an acutal in person discussion.

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Bypass the front desk...

#19 Post by Tom »

I have worked in a cabinet shop previously, and still operate a business where I need a few favors from the local cabinet shop foreman.

Unless you are a golfing buddy of the owner, bypass the front desk entirely, if possible. Phone and ask to speak with the shop foreman, and leave a call back phone number. Likely he will call you back when the dust settles. Leave a message regarding "shop waste removal" which should pique interest. The foreman will understand the "waste removal" problem better than the receptionist.

Ask to make a cash and carry purchase of a few sheets of half-inch drawer plywood. Let him know that top & bottom sheets are OK. They buy strapped bulk plywood and typically these sheets are waste, and inefficient to store and salvage - a logistical PITA for the foreman.

Arrange a time. If you show up with an empty pickup truck and cash, he might part with a few sheets. Make sure that the truck bed is empty - it helps to look like you work with your truck, so remove golf clubs, etc.

Cabinetmakers work long hours, and typically work part of Saturday to catch up. The boss/owner will be golfing on Saturday, and the foreman may see the golden opportunity to convert a few sheets of problem plywood into cash for a round or two for the hard-working crew.

Millworkers and cabinetmakers work hard for small paychecks. A good foreman will know how to reward them. Beers taste good after a long week of eating sawdust.

Make a fair offer. Don't put anyone in a situation where they need to lie or steal. The foreman will either help you or send you packing.

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#20 Post by jfr1111 »

Good advice, but as was said, it's not that good plywood isn't readily available around here, it's just that I really didn't know what could or should be used. So chances are, I won't have to use ninja tactics to get my wood (funny phrasing...)

Plus, I don't drive a pick-up ;)

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