HowieZ's T24 build
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Well, I have one success and one almost success. My Irwin super turbo 1" hole hogging bit thingy went wild making a hole for the body of the speakon, so it's a little oval now. No worry, the jack will cover it, but I still know it's there!
Normally I use a hole saw for the handles and cut between them with a jigsaw like the plans. When I cut my driver hole, I used an edge trimming router bit to match the size of one cab to the other. That gave me an idea to make a template for small holes and slots, since my circle cutting jig won't go below like 4-1/2" diameter. So I decided to try 3D printing a template for my Speakon and carry handle holes. We have a new Creality K1 Max at work, so I ran a few 'test' prints. At first the router jumped a bit because I plunged it, but next time i'll drill a pilot hole to be safe. Nothing was damaged or cut funny but the router wiggled a bit. Safety first right? So anyway I ordered a new template bit and made a slot template. Then I made a template the router would just ride inside for shallow work, in my case a 2" diameter counter bore to recess the Speakon. That one turned out a bit undersize. No worries, it's less than a $1 of plastic that is biodegradable, so i'll print a bit larger one tomorrow. The guided template was spot on, but the router base version was about 1/16" small. I have a feeling my router is not 3-1/2" in diameter but more like 90mm.
Normally I use a hole saw for the handles and cut between them with a jigsaw like the plans. When I cut my driver hole, I used an edge trimming router bit to match the size of one cab to the other. That gave me an idea to make a template for small holes and slots, since my circle cutting jig won't go below like 4-1/2" diameter. So I decided to try 3D printing a template for my Speakon and carry handle holes. We have a new Creality K1 Max at work, so I ran a few 'test' prints. At first the router jumped a bit because I plunged it, but next time i'll drill a pilot hole to be safe. Nothing was damaged or cut funny but the router wiggled a bit. Safety first right? So anyway I ordered a new template bit and made a slot template. Then I made a template the router would just ride inside for shallow work, in my case a 2" diameter counter bore to recess the Speakon. That one turned out a bit undersize. No worries, it's less than a $1 of plastic that is biodegradable, so i'll print a bit larger one tomorrow. The guided template was spot on, but the router base version was about 1/16" small. I have a feeling my router is not 3-1/2" in diameter but more like 90mm.
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I printed another inset ring for next time. Now I can spotface the 2" dia for the Speakon connector flange, then place the insert for the 1" clearance hole for the body. I used it to clean up mine a bit, but alas, i had destroyed them with the auger bit.
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Even labelled "Insert for 3"! Well done. I like it! I have made jigs.....and then forgot to label them. 
TomS
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Been kinda stuck for a few days, doing putzy things like cutting access cover flanges. In the meantime I also had some more 3D printing inspiration. I shared my router template pictures in a previous post. Now I've attempted to print a mold for a driver gasket. At first I just made a negative of a driver gasket, filled it with silicone caulk and leveled it off with a steel straight edge. I ended up with some streak/drag texture on top because I could not get the straight edge to release silicone easily. So then I watched some YouTube videos on making silicone injection molds. I printed a top with some holes to let caulk out, and a 1/64 gap all around to let extra caulk out as flashing. The flashing can be cut off or it tends to tear off easily. So my second gasket, (first with a mold cover) worked well. My third attempt (second with a mold cover), had a low spot, but I was able to add a little silicone and re-clamp. The beauty of silicone is, it really only sticks to itself permanently. I clamped it between an old driver cutout donut and the side of a cab to keep it flat/squeezed while the silicone cured. I let them sit 24 hours and they are fully cured. It's about 3/32 thick, and I think will work way better than foam tape. I seriously struggle with that stuff wrapping a circle. I may attempt an access cover gasket next.
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You clever son of a bitch. That's awesome!
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I glued the second side on cab 2 the other night, forgot to post pictures.
I got cab 2's access cover flange screwed and silicone caulked in tonight. I made it removeable, my driver barely fit through the opening unless upside down and I can't flip it inside. If it doesn't work, I'll glue it in and the driver will be permanent. No luck on cab 1. I started to test fit the driver and 4 of my 8 screws won't go in. I put T-nuts in and apparently they are just enough out of alignment... I can finger thread them with the driver out. That's what I get for building a bolt circle based on published specs. I had one do this on cab 2 but after a bit of driver wiggling I was able to get it started and hand 1/4" ratchet drive it home.
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You could always pound the T-nuts out, glue dowel in the holes, and use wood screws like the plans recommend. Alternately, you can try spacing the driver up off the baffle with some bits of ply while starting the fasteners. You might be better able to get an angle that works to get all of them in. Might also be able to adjust the T-nut alignment a little too if you stick a thin punch or screwdriver in and move them a little. I've had that happen a few times. Super frustrating, I know.
A few of the designs have just enough room to get the driver in when made with the recommended 1" access panel flange dimension. Your available window is 1½" smaller in each dimension than it otherwise would be. Glad you got 'em in there
I'm getting really anxious to hear your impression of these cabs, especially in contrast to your Frankenstein T48's.
A few of the designs have just enough room to get the driver in when made with the recommended 1" access panel flange dimension. Your available window is 1½" smaller in each dimension than it otherwise would be. Glad you got 'em in there
I'm getting really anxious to hear your impression of these cabs, especially in contrast to your Frankenstein T48's.
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Howie, if you know which screws are out of alignment, you could enlarge the driver flange hole a bit. Use a washer under the screw head if necessary.
TomS
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^ I like that solution. Good thinking Tom
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This is a good idea. My first thought is to open up the ply over the T-nut for more wiggle room, I kept 'em pretty snug, like 1 drill size over the #10 screw, and just opened up the 'blocks' enough for the T-nuts to sink in. I'm going to buy a 10-24 tap and clean them all out first. I have two but they are so Harbor Freighty they won't even start in a clean hex nut in my hand.
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The tap worked, I cleaned out two offending T-nuts and now cab 1 has it's driver mounted. Need to do a leak test. In the meantime, I've rounded corners, filled nail holes and sanded cab 2. I used my new HF HVLP gun to spray black primer on cab 2. It seems to have worked, and much faster than with a brush. My only complaint would be getting in the mouth. Kind of hard with that gravity paint pot on top. I opened up the orifices (or closed them), to shoot a pointed spray deep in the abyss. I'm not really sure how to adjust it yet, too many knobs. Anyway I have 4 sides and the mouth sprayed. This morning I put a coat of Duratex on those sides and in the mouth. My first BFM with a Duratex'd mouth. I like the look, don't like getting it in there, hard to roll. I don't know how the heck you guys all make your cabs look so good.
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I do it in two steps. I place it upside down to hit the first coat, including the bottom. After it flashes I attach the feet. Then I flip it over to do the rest. I leave a couple of spots on the sides bare with the first coat to give places to grab to flip it over.
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Thanks BIll. I think I kind of did this but upside down. I did put feet on late yesterday and flip it over and prime bottom. I just didn't think to leave spots for handling. I tried to use the cut in handles, but I had primed both and Duratex'd one partially. This morning I'll try to get in mouth better/the upside down parts of mouth...Bill Fitzmaurice wrote: ↑Fri Sep 22, 2023 11:23 amI do it in two steps. I place it upside down to hit the first coat, including the bottom. After it flashes I attach the feet. Then I flip it over to do the rest. I leave a couple of spots on the sides bare with the first coat to give places to grab to flip it over.
Yearning for a turntable now... And a paint booth.