Where are you located? We can buy baltic birch for around $30 a sheet here in Texas.Triticum Agricolam wrote:Thanks! That's a pretty reasonable price.anikun07 wrote:I paid $33/sheet, I think. I saw it was on sale for $30/sheet this week at Menards.
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I'm in Illinois. I don't know who supplies Baltic Birch, but what's the size? Bill made it seem like it comes in 5x5 sheets. For the THT LS, three of the panels are over 60".
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5x5s are around 30 bucks. The last time I bought 4x8, they were 43-46 bucks. But, it seems like we have really good prices down here.anikun07 wrote:I'm in Illinois. I don't know who supplies Baltic Birch, but what's the size? Bill made it seem like it comes in 5x5 sheets. For the THT LS, three of the panels are over 60".
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It'd be a bit of a drive for you, but I've driven 2 hrs to get their HIGH QUALITY 60"x60" 11 or 13 ply 1/2" cabinet maker's grade Baltic Birch. And it wasn't that expensive- really cheaper than Lowe's 4x8 mid grade BB, per sq ft. About $35 per sheet, and they cut it on the line I measured out to make it fit in my wagon.
Pekin / Peoria
It'd be a bit of a drive for you, but I've driven 2 hrs to get their HIGH QUALITY 60"x60" 11 or 13 ply 1/2" cabinet maker's grade Baltic Birch. And it wasn't that expensive- really cheaper than Lowe's 4x8 mid grade BB, per sq ft. About $35 per sheet, and they cut it on the line I measured out to make it fit in my wagon.
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Thanks Rich, I wasn't sure if Baltic Birch is available at either Menards, Lowe's, or Home Depot? I thought it probably had to come from a lumber yard, which I may have a couple in my area. Peoria is about 2 1/2 hours each way, but it's good to know that it's there.
Tonight I cut and glued panels 3, 4, and 5. Tomorrow I will have to pull out the driver from my THT standard for panel 6. I'll need to pick up some T-Nuts to mount the driver, too.

Tonight I cut and glued panels 3, 4, and 5. Tomorrow I will have to pull out the driver from my THT standard for panel 6. I'll need to pick up some T-Nuts to mount the driver, too.

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I'm in Eastern Washington state. I can get 5'x5' 1/2" baltic birch for about $35 a sheet.Bruce Weldy wrote: Where are you located? We can buy baltic birch for around $30 a sheet here in Texas.
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Tonight was getting the baffle ready for installation. I pulled the 15" Dayton driver from my THT "Standard" last night. Today I picked up some T-Nuts for the baffle mount. The instructions were slightly different than those when I made the THT, so I basically worked from memory, looking at the "new" plans for additional guidance.
I started by centering the driver on the panel and marked where the mounting holes would go by punching them with a nail and mallet. I traced the driver on the panel, then used a scroll saw to cut the circle out. A bit of sanding was needed to smooth out the "lumps." I must say, a scroll saw is much easier than a jigsaw for cutting that out, but I think the last two baffles I cut were at 45 degrees than 90 degrees. After drilling 1/4" holes for the T-Nuts I hammered them into place.

There were a few nuts that stuck out over the edge of the cut so I used a Dremel to grind the edges back and smooth them out.
(Product placement picture, think I can get a check?
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Then I used the Gorilla Glue recommended in past builds to glue the T-Nuts in place. I found that side-cutters worked really good for removing the nuts from the panel to apply the glue. After gluing them I mounted the driver to apply extra pressure to the nuts while the glue dries.
(I should have taken a picture of the glue, too.)

With the driver mounted, the opening was pretty well spaced from the driver surround.

I tested out some tones and the surround doesn't even come close to touching the opening. I think the built in gasket helps a lot since it's probably about 1/2" thick. Next will be to glue the baffle into the cab.
I started by centering the driver on the panel and marked where the mounting holes would go by punching them with a nail and mallet. I traced the driver on the panel, then used a scroll saw to cut the circle out. A bit of sanding was needed to smooth out the "lumps." I must say, a scroll saw is much easier than a jigsaw for cutting that out, but I think the last two baffles I cut were at 45 degrees than 90 degrees. After drilling 1/4" holes for the T-Nuts I hammered them into place.

There were a few nuts that stuck out over the edge of the cut so I used a Dremel to grind the edges back and smooth them out.
(Product placement picture, think I can get a check?


Then I used the Gorilla Glue recommended in past builds to glue the T-Nuts in place. I found that side-cutters worked really good for removing the nuts from the panel to apply the glue. After gluing them I mounted the driver to apply extra pressure to the nuts while the glue dries.
(I should have taken a picture of the glue, too.)

With the driver mounted, the opening was pretty well spaced from the driver surround.

I tested out some tones and the surround doesn't even come close to touching the opening. I think the built in gasket helps a lot since it's probably about 1/2" thick. Next will be to glue the baffle into the cab.
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Glue isn't enough for the t-nuts. Put a little screw in 'em too.
Harley showed us that a few years back....
Harley showed us that a few years back....
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Is the purpose to prevent spinning when tightening the bolts? Oh! Your picture is probably with the flat base. I used the kind with the teeth. Sorry, it's not possible to tell in the picture. Thanks for the comment, if I ever use those in the future I will remember to get little screws.
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use a dab of gorilla glue and wet the surface. no screws necessary.
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That's what I did. I forget such kind of glue it is, but it's the small bottle. I suspect the non-toothed nuts would need that screw though.abrockey wrote:use a dab of gorilla glue and wet the surface. no screws necessary.
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Tightening, or loosening, if that ever needs to happen.Is the purpose to prevent spinning when tightening the bolts?
Nothing worse than having to remove a driver and the nuts start spinning, not letting you undo the bolts.
That's why, by and large, it's now recommended to mount drivers with screws...
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I do believe the quality of auraco that Menards sells now-a-days is getting crappy. I had to sort through the whole pile to find 2 half-sheets that were ok and had a few knots holes missing from the outer ply. Too many separated plys and defects to bother anymore.
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anikun07 wrote:That's what I did. I forget such kind of glue it is, but it's the small bottle. I suspect the non-toothed nuts would need that screw though.abrockey wrote:use a dab of gorilla glue and wet the surface. no screws necessary.
I would do it with either type of nut. A Tee-nut can back out of the wood when loosening if there is some side pressure on the bolt. The bolt stays where it is, but it pushes the t-nut out.
For the time involved, it's really good insurance.
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+1 I've seen it happen to my mates... took 'em half a day (& a f**k load of swearing) to get 2 bolts out and they also had to damage the baffle in the process.Bruce Weldy wrote:I would do it with either type of nut. A Tee-nut can back out of the wood when loosening if there is some side pressure on the bolt. The bolt stays where it is, but it pushes the t-nut out.
For the time involved, it's really good insurance.