What's an Economical Tow Rig?
What's an Economical Tow Rig?
The payload would be - at the most - 4 T39s, a couple of OTop 112s, and the gear to connect them all, plus a keyboard, and guitars and such. No drums or bass rig, as I am using backing tracks for worship events.
2X OTop 112, 3012HO, melded - 2X T39, 27", Lab 12 - XF 212 - 4 DR250, 2 melded, 2 straight
2 20" T39 3012LF - WH10 - WH8 - in the shop - 2 more 20" T39s
http://saltandlighteureka.org still need a trailer
2 20" T39 3012LF - WH10 - WH8 - in the shop - 2 more 20" T39s
http://saltandlighteureka.org still need a trailer

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Re: What's an Economical Tow Rig?
This:
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Add your own plywood to make it weather tight.
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Add your own plywood to make it weather tight.
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Re: What's an Economical Tow Rig?
Do you have monitors too? Amp racks, mixer, cables, snake, lights, etc.?
You'll need more room than you think. Minimum 5x8 enclosed trailer. My 6x10 is full with stuff....and I don't put guitars or keys in there.
You'll need more room than you think. Minimum 5x8 enclosed trailer. My 6x10 is full with stuff....and I don't put guitars or keys in there.
6 - T39 3012LF
4 - OT12 2512
1 - T24
1 - SLA Pro
2 - XF210
"A system with a few knobs set up by someone who knows what they are doing is always better than one with a lot of knobs set up by someone who doesn't."
Re: What's an Economical Tow Rig?
I built a trailer out of an old cube van box that was given to me free of charge, 16 feet long x 8 feet wide and 6 foot 8 inch high inside.
Because of the large floor area, I haven't had a need to stack anything yet. It has tandem 7000 pound axles, so weight isn't a problem. It's got a 15 foot aluminum ramp; I can load and unload it myself if there's no help available.
Because of the large floor area, I haven't had a need to stack anything yet. It has tandem 7000 pound axles, so weight isn't a problem. It's got a 15 foot aluminum ramp; I can load and unload it myself if there's no help available.
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Re: What's an Economical Tow Rig?
I used to borrow my father's trailer and pickup. Since I don't get the kit out very often, I'll rent a cube truck for the next times. I found a place that charges me $50 for 24 hours and it's much bigger than the trailer. At that price, renting is my best option.
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Re: What's an Economical Tow Rig?
At that price, renting a cube van makes complete good sense. The problem I was running into with renting is you never knew for sure if a unit would be available unless you booked it well in advance of the date. Even then there were problems, usually at the end of the month when apartment dwellers were moving. Having this trailer eliminates the stresses of dealing with transport.
Some of the drawbacks to this trailer is it's high, a 32 inches deck height, which is a little high for ground level loading. I could have built it lower, but I would have had to cut wheel wells into the floor. I decided I would rather have an unobstructed floor inside and just put up with the extra incline on the ramp. The worst pieces of gear for loading is the cable trunk 22.5" wide x 60" long and the power distro with the AC cabling, both around 300 pounds each, however I can still manage to push them up the ramp myself. Praises to God for good ball bearing casters.
The other thing is it's heavy. The aluminum on the box is .100" thick. Oh well, I suppose it's better too thick than paper thin aluminum skins I've seen on some commercial cargo trailers.
Some of the drawbacks to this trailer is it's high, a 32 inches deck height, which is a little high for ground level loading. I could have built it lower, but I would have had to cut wheel wells into the floor. I decided I would rather have an unobstructed floor inside and just put up with the extra incline on the ramp. The worst pieces of gear for loading is the cable trunk 22.5" wide x 60" long and the power distro with the AC cabling, both around 300 pounds each, however I can still manage to push them up the ramp myself. Praises to God for good ball bearing casters.
The other thing is it's heavy. The aluminum on the box is .100" thick. Oh well, I suppose it's better too thick than paper thin aluminum skins I've seen on some commercial cargo trailers.
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Re: What's an Economical Tow Rig?
For those that pull trailers, this little bit of info may come in handy:
Trailer tongue weight is critically important for safety and the way the vehicle / trailer combination handles on the road. The tongue weight on the hitch ball should be no less than 10% and no more than 15% of the gross weight of the loaded trailer. As an example, if the loaded weight is 5000 pounds, the tongue weight should be minimum 500 pounds, and no more than 750 pounds.
Equally as important the hitch and tow vehicle are rated for your gross load and tongue weight.
There are commercially available products that can be used to measure the tongue weight, but I went the DIY route. I purchased a bottle jack that has a piston diameter of 1.128". It's important to get this diameter as close as possible in order for the gauge to read accurately without the need for a conversion chart.
I drilled and tapped the base for a 1000 PSI gauge which reads directly in pounds weight applied on the jack ram. Placed under the trailer ball coupler, it will indicate the tongue weight of the trailer.
I got the idea from here:
http://www.albroswift.com/jack.htm
http://www.skylighter.com/fireworks/how ... -press.asp
Trailer tongue weight is critically important for safety and the way the vehicle / trailer combination handles on the road. The tongue weight on the hitch ball should be no less than 10% and no more than 15% of the gross weight of the loaded trailer. As an example, if the loaded weight is 5000 pounds, the tongue weight should be minimum 500 pounds, and no more than 750 pounds.
Equally as important the hitch and tow vehicle are rated for your gross load and tongue weight.
There are commercially available products that can be used to measure the tongue weight, but I went the DIY route. I purchased a bottle jack that has a piston diameter of 1.128". It's important to get this diameter as close as possible in order for the gauge to read accurately without the need for a conversion chart.
I drilled and tapped the base for a 1000 PSI gauge which reads directly in pounds weight applied on the jack ram. Placed under the trailer ball coupler, it will indicate the tongue weight of the trailer.
I got the idea from here:
http://www.albroswift.com/jack.htm
http://www.skylighter.com/fireworks/how ... -press.asp
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Re: What's an Economical Tow Rig?
Cheap old school creaper van.
4 20" T39(built)
2 WH8(built)
3 WH10(own)
4 DR200(own)
1 Jack 12(built)
SAC 24 Channel Mixer
SAW STUDIO Recording
Re: What's an Economical Tow Rig?
How about this: http://www.cargurus.com/Cars/2014-Chevr ... iew-c24013 with a tow package including huge trans cooler.
2X OTop 112, 3012HO, melded - 2X T39, 27", Lab 12 - XF 212 - 4 DR250, 2 melded, 2 straight
2 20" T39 3012LF - WH10 - WH8 - in the shop - 2 more 20" T39s
http://saltandlighteureka.org still need a trailer
2 20" T39 3012LF - WH10 - WH8 - in the shop - 2 more 20" T39s
http://saltandlighteureka.org still need a trailer

Re: What's an Economical Tow Rig?
What's wrong with the 'Hoe? Or, are you looking for an excuse to buy a new vehicle?ripNdeb wrote:How about this: http://www.cargurus.com/Cars/2014-Chevr ... iew-c24013 with a tow package including huge trans cooler.


Buy an enclosed trailer. Pull it with the Tahoe. Store your equipment in it when not in use.
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Accept the fact that airtight and well-braced are more important than pretty on the inside. Bill Fitzmaurice
Re: What's an Economical Tow Rig?
The Traverse payload is 5200 lbs vs 8500 for the Hoe. More than enough for my stuff in a 4x6 or 5x8 trailer.DJPhatman wrote:looking for an excuse to buy a new vehicle![]()
2X OTop 112, 3012HO, melded - 2X T39, 27", Lab 12 - XF 212 - 4 DR250, 2 melded, 2 straight
2 20" T39 3012LF - WH10 - WH8 - in the shop - 2 more 20" T39s
http://saltandlighteureka.org still need a trailer
2 20" T39 3012LF - WH10 - WH8 - in the shop - 2 more 20" T39s
http://saltandlighteureka.org still need a trailer

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Re: What's an Economical Tow Rig?
Getting all the stuff you have listed in your sig in a 5x8 might be pretty tight if you have monitors etc......my 6x10 is packed pretty tight with 6-T39s, 4-OT12s, 5 monitors, rack, etc.....ripNdeb wrote:The Traverse payload is 5200 lbs vs 8500 for the Hoe. More than enough for my stuff in a 4x6 or 5x8 trailer.DJPhatman wrote:looking for an excuse to buy a new vehicle![]()
It's amazing all the ancillary stuff that is necessary to do a show.....cables, stands, snakes, mic boxes, etc. And if you get one big enough, you can always have stools, canopy, spare tire.......pretty much everything that you might need, even if not for every show.
Make sure you think of everything that's getting moved, not just the big stuff, before picking a trailer size.
6 - T39 3012LF
4 - OT12 2512
1 - T24
1 - SLA Pro
2 - XF210
"A system with a few knobs set up by someone who knows what they are doing is always better than one with a lot of knobs set up by someone who doesn't."
Re: What's an Economical Tow Rig?
Pile all your gear together on a concrete floor and re-arrange it into a logical pack order that will fit standard trailer widths and see how it best fits. This will give you an idea on what width and length trailer you need should you decide to purchase one. Better yet is to rent one like you think you want and try it out first.
Built
T48s
WH8s
SX212
T48s
WH8s
SX212
Re: What's an Economical Tow Rig?
agreed; after tax and insurance a U-Haul is about $25. For the amount we travel we should just rent all the time 

2X OTop 112, 3012HO, melded - 2X T39, 27", Lab 12 - XF 212 - 4 DR250, 2 melded, 2 straight
2 20" T39 3012LF - WH10 - WH8 - in the shop - 2 more 20" T39s
http://saltandlighteureka.org still need a trailer
2 20" T39 3012LF - WH10 - WH8 - in the shop - 2 more 20" T39s
http://saltandlighteureka.org still need a trailer
