That depends on how you define expandable. You can link two 16.4.2 desks to make a 32 channel desk, and I believe you can link two 24.4.2 desks to get 48 channels. You do give up the firewire connection to do this. The X32 can use stageboxes and has recallable gain, and comes with 32 mic pres... which means you don't need to expand to get in the same ball game as the O1V line, with a full complement of (rather expensive) 8 channel ADAT mic pres.dswpro wrote: the Presonus desks are not expandable, neither is the x32.
Also, both the presonus and the X32 have far more outputs and processing than the O1V will ever think about.
You are correct that it reduces GBF, if musicians will tolerate it. In my experience most won't... and if you need to do this kind of trickery to get decent GBF in monitors, you should reexamine your mic choice and placement, as well as your monitor EQ. Monitors don't have to be HiFi, but they can be if you have the right gear.I won't use the Presonus desks for live work since they do not offer delays on outputs. Try adding 10-15 ms delay on your mains and 7-10 ms delay on your monitors ( but not on in-ears ) You will increase your gain before feedback.
Not nearly as steep as the GLD-80. It's quite workable.The X32 has a steep learning curve, particularly in routing inputs to outputs.
Yamaha digital desks have been around for a while. While longevity and reliability are certainly correlated, the lack of longevity does not equal lack of reliability. As for I/O patching, yes, it's fairly decent.The Yamaha desks are rock solid reliable. Ask any touring company. The input and output patching are easy to understand and flexible.
Weren't you just touting adding latency to everything but IEMs? Truthfully, adding a small amount latency to IEMs sometimes is the solution to the phase problems introduced by too much latency anyway. Anyway, the latency of all these systems is comparable (1-5ms, usually).The digital latency is minimal. I haven't seen a SAC with less.
From the department of Credit where it is due... SAC is an excellently coded product, that, when built and set up according to the developer's specifications for both hardware and OS, is just as stable as any desk. In four years, my SAC system has never crashed during a gig. In fact, my first SAC PC (which I built on the cheap and not to developer spec) had a poorly attached processor fan which shook loose at some point during its life (probably during transport). It kept on passing audio (with a few low level pops here and there) through at least two weeks of use before I tracked the problem down to the processor fan. I rebuilt it with reccomended components and it's been perfectly stable ever since. And, by perfectly stable, I mean that I haul it in a non-shock-mount rack on a yard trailer to gigs, and it works when it gets there. I've had Soundcraft, Allen&Heath, Presonus, and Yamaha all crash during gigs or setup for gigs.I write software for a living. I don't want Windows, IOS, or any operating system locking up between me and my audio during a performance, so any product which depends on a commonly infected operating system is out of serious consideration for me.
In a band environment, yes. In a pro audio rental environment (which I believe OP was considering as well), not so much.The 01v does not have recallable pre-amp gains but you are probably going to plug the same sources into the same channels all the time anyway.
[/quote][/quote]Every digital console comes with a learning curve. Whatever you choose, do yourself a favor and set the console up with a snake out front at least once for a rehearsal. If you can find a local operator familiar with the board, get some setup help. Dial in your monitors and your mains. Then save your settings and run your gigs from stage for your shows. If all goes well you should have to do very few adjustments from gig to gig, and perhaps turn up a fader during a solo or two from song to song.
Here's an argument for the newer products which have tablet access if I've ever seen one...
