Please give me some advice that I won't take!

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#31 Post by Greg Plouvier »

CoronaOperator wrote:I understand they are quality cables that would probably hold up to the abuse on the road
Monster instrument cables are the ones I repair most often - shitty design
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Greg Plouvier wrote:
CoronaOperator wrote:I understand they are quality cables that would probably hold up to the abuse on the road
Monster instrument cables are the ones I repair most often - shitty design
Their XLR connectors are nonrepairable. I used to have to sell them... found more than a few where RCA connectors just pulled right off.

As for the supposed electrical benefits, our Monster rep actually brought a scope in and did a set of comparison tests to a big training event one year. He was testing composite video cables... trying to prove that Monster cables can improve video transmission, since everyone uses composite video cables to hook up their $300 HDTVs... Long story short, he proved quite handily that Monster cables can carry RF quite cleanly. Next time I need harmonics in the megahertz area, I'll buy some.
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Long story short, he proved quite handily that Monster cables can carry RF quite cleanly
Not a factor for Composite Video anyway. It's not RF! If it were then you'd be placing the TV or Monitor on channel 3 or 4 to use composite! LOL.

OK maybe on the old Atari systems where the RF carrier was an external box that you cabled into your TV but at that point its a mixed signal anyways. Composite on an RF Carrier.
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#34 Post by Bill Fitzmaurice »

BrentEvans wrote:
As for the supposed electrical benefits, our Monster rep actually brought a scope in and did a set of comparison tests to a big training event one year. He was testing composite video cables... trying to prove that Monster cables can improve video transmission, since everyone uses composite video cables to hook up their $300 HDTVs... Long story short, he proved quite handily that Monster cables can carry RF quite cleanly. Next time I need harmonics in the megahertz area, I'll buy some.
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I have pulled component RCA jack off TVs trying to pull those angle cut super tight Monster wires off. I was even trying to be careful and unscrew the body off the relieve the pressure. So they hold, way too well.
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CoronaOperator wrote:I was just "educated" on the "virtues" of monstercables on boxing day (dec 26th) by some dubstep DJ's from Vancouver we had in for a show. After their load in and setup (about $10k of equipment, 2 technics turntables, djm800 mixer, 2 cdj1000 cd players, xone 4d mixer, 2 macbooks running serrato) they needed to patch into our pa. They wanted xlr from their mixer direct into our driverack but I refused. I wanted them to patch into our house mixer so I could retain control over their max volume out. We have limiters in place but most DJ's push the limiters so hard that noise, not music is the end result. Kinda hard to let them know to turn it down in the middle of a set without disruping their tempo. I finally sold them on the idea when they realised our mixer had aux outs that were needed for delay stacks futherdown the bar and around the corner in a chill out section. After they gave me a lecture on how daisy chaining our mixers would kill their sound quality (like running into the limiters wouldn't :noob: ) you should've seen the look of disappointment on their faces when I pulled out my $3 patch cable to patch them into our mixer :D

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Thats when the whole monstercable lecture came out. I understand they are quality cables that would probably hold up to the abuse on the road, but that wasn't the lecture. My cables lacked "time aligning" and "flux capacitors" and "MicroFiber ® dielectric insulation precision wound around select conductors for faster transients" there was no way any decent quality of sound could possibly go through those. They looked at their desk full of $10k worth of equipment and felt somehow that they may as well brought wallmart mp3 players. There was no convincing these guys that as long as no noise enters the system, coat hangers work just as well.

I just smiled and nodded

Actually, I've used Monster Cables, and Radio Shack Cables, and no-name cables, and even broken down and built my own. The one guarantee, in ALL instances, is that under a given set of circumstances the first cable to die will be the Monster Cable. Usually the no-name is next, followed by the radio shack. Generally the gold-plated ones die first, too.

I've never had a Monster cable that I was happy with. They're all over-marketed, under-engineered crap. They tout their sound quality and durability, but still sell a 20' Car audio RCA cable that uses 22 gauge wire and NO strain relief whatsoever. All it took was one over-eager DJ trying to unplug the cord from his mixer yanking on the cord instead of pulling from the actual plug and I was left with a very pretty, but very useless $60 cable.
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Epic, Bruce! Just epic!

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