Experimental Tuba 36

[djtecthreat]

There is no JBL hating over here. I actually own a slew of JBL products. The point I was making here is the likelyhood of someone ignorantly fan-boying a brand to change his tune with a short discussion about DIY speakers, is probably next to none. I've been down this road before.

People are drilled to believe things based on mythology and theory and unfortuantly this guy has probably never even turned the speakon on anything better than the JRX or EON series. Having owned a lot of EON's they are good from far, and far from good. I use them as rental stock for people exactly like this guy who see a red JBL logo and equate that to high-quality sound.

I recently worked with a band that was crazy about Peavey, thought it was the greatest equipment on earth. When they saw my mains and subs were EAW they asked me why I use cheap PA equipment. I tried to explain that EAW is world reknowned, and used by many touring companies the "cool" guitar player cut me off and said "I don't know about all that, we'll use it, but they ain't no Peavey."

Could you imagine these boneheads' response if I brought out my BFM rig and told them I Built it? Well let me tell ya, they'd shut their ears and open their mouths to complain. Sometimes there's just no getting through to people.

[BrentEvans]

I recently worked with a band that was crazy about Peavey, thought it was the greatest equipment on earth. When they saw my mains and subs were EAW they asked me why I use cheap PA equipment. I tried to explain that EAW is world reknowned, and used by many touring companies the "cool" guitar player cut me off and said "I don't know about all that, we'll use it, but they ain't no Peavey."

It's amazing how Peavey has brand-blinded so many people, in both directions. Don't get me wrong, I have a few pieces of their gear, and it all works just fine, and serve their respective purposes, but it's no better or worse than anything else (of comparable build and spec) out there, IMO. It just seems that no audio company so polarizes people to love or hate more than Peavey. Well, maybe Behringer, but that's mostly hate, right? With Peavey, people seem to think either it's the best thing out there, or total junk.

[Bill Fitzmaurice]

EAW ...ain't no Peavey."

Yeah, and a Bentley ain't no Hyundai either.

[BrentEvans]

EAW ...ain't no Peavey."

Yeah, and a Bentley ain't no Hyundai either.

Come now, Bill. At least we could let EAW be, say, BMW, and Peavey be, oh, I dunno, Ford? I can think of better, and far far worse.

[djtecthreat]

This anology is out of my league because I can't think of a good reason to buy a Hyundai or a Bently. But then again I'm the same crazy guy who runs an A&H board into an Ashly EQ, then into a Behringer speaker management system.

The EAW stuff is rider friendly, bottom line. It was an investment and I don't regret doing it. I don't regret my BFM stuff either.

[Drey Chennells]

Depends. Their bottom end stuff is no different than anybody else. When you step up the midrange and up gear you do get very good quality gear. They deserve respect if for no other reason than their contributions to the industry.

Definitely. People tend to build credibility and respect for their opinions by keeping an objectivity about 'other' brands and setups etc..

[DJ Big Ronn]

I think that most of your Peavey lovers would come from the old CS tank amps that just wouldnt die. Like any other company tho, they have many different levels of gear, some great some not so great. I could get my uncles together with a tub full of beer, and they'll fight all night over Chevy Ford or Dodge. I think that its just a mindset, similar to HT guys or car audio geys that think you have to have all the same brand equipment for it to sound right. Back in the day, I would catch a hard time because i used so many diff. brands, but each one had a strong point over others that were performing the same function. Tell some of the pros that you have a Behringer DCX-2496 in your rack, and watch them roll their eyes.

[Drey Chennells]

I think that most of your Peavey lovers would come from the old CS tank amps that just wouldnt die. Like any other company tho, they have many different levels of gear, some great some not so great. I could get my uncles together with a tub full of beer, and they'll fight all night over Chevy Ford or Dodge. I think that its just a mindset, similar to HT guys or car audio geys that think you have to have all the same brand equipment for it to sound right. Back in the day, I would catch a hard time because i used so many diff. brands, but each one had a strong point over others that were performing the same function. Tell some of the pros that you have a Behringer DCX-2496 in your rack, and watch them roll their eyes. :lol:

yea I've had several CS amps,400 and 800. Tanks.

[Zack Brock]

Wow, what's with all the JBL hating? [..] Ya'll make it sound as if they were rebranding Nady cabs and sticking their logos on there.

Hey, watch out, Nady stuff is where it is at!

[Chris_Allen]

I suppose it could be summarised into those people who understand what works for themselves and those that understand what works for others. Recommendations often come from experience and we have all probably seen how experience in any field variates wildly.

[BrentEvans]

Wow, what's with all the JBL hating? [..] Ya'll make it sound as if they were rebranding Nady cabs and sticking their logos on there.

Hey, watch out, Nady stuff is where it is at!

Every OEM has good pieces and bad pieces. The balance thereof is variable. I have a Nady headset mic that's OK, and they make some OK condenser mics. Most of it, however, is garbaggio. It is all however, super cheap, which balances this out.

We have a local guy here who supplies the school system and a lot of churches (he's the local bulk tape/cd man, too, exorbitant prices IMO). We call him knothead. If it ain't Nady, Samson, or Behringer, he doesn't carry it, as it's not "Premium Value Gear."

Last time I went in there he wanted $10 for a cheapo knockoff XLR connector as part of a group of stuff. When he made a price for all of it for me, I didn't have the cash on hand, and asked him to just leave off a few items, and he told me he'd have to recalculate the prices of everything. I let him keep it all, and spent two hours desoldering old XLR connectors instead.