different finishes?

[danderson]

just wondering if anyone ever finishes thier cabinets with anything other than duratex. I know some of the companies use line-x(Grubsrof). They should be extremely durable, but I just wondered about the acoustic dampening they brag about affecting the box resonance or other qualities? Anyway, just curious what others did.

Thanks
Dan

[LelandCrooks]

acoustic dampening
Thanks
Dan

BS and mirrors. Won't dampen any more than similar products that don't make that claim, like duratex.

Lots of folks around here have used line-x and other roll ons.

[vlad335]

Personally, I think Duratex is awesome. Tough as nails, simple/stupid to apply, and relatively cheap.

Made the cabs I hacked out look almost pro built. Bill knows what he is talking about. Why would anyone want to use anything else?

[bjhueni]

I'll be the first blasphemer!

I didn't use the Duratex. Cost and time were both factors. I have a local Sherwin Williams dealer that is pretty good. They have helped me with several odd requests. I ended up with a door paint that has a reasonably hard finish and good build. The results are pretty good but not everything I could hope for. Considering the savings it's not bad, the color is perfect, the texture and hardness are good, but could be better.

I would not recommend using other products. I will, at some point bite the bullet and get some Duratex, may never go back after that. But at worst I could always refinish the Titans.

I feel so much better now that the truth is out. I am prepared, stone me!

[Bill Fitzmaurice]

I just wondered about the acoustic dampening they brag about affecting the box resonance or other qualities?

Snakeoil. The mere mention of such piffel should make you seriously question the engineering of their cabinets, or lack of it.

Sidebar: A few years back I reviewed a book by Forsburg (Grubsrof is his name spelled backwards) on how to build speaker boxes. Horrible. He flat out admitted that when his company was making cabs their engineering method was to rent a JBL or EV cab for a day to be sure to 'get the look right'. To this day I don't think he has a clue to how a speaker actually works. That still makes him qualified to be head engineer at AccuGroove.

[danderson]

I didn't mean the speaker company was making the claim about dampening. The manufacturer of line-x,rhino, and so on make that claim and I just didn't know if that was a good idea or not. I've not seen duratex upclose that I know of unless that's what speaker companies use. I have however been upclose to truck beds and know that that stuff is indestructable. So I was thinking if it didn't hurt anything I would use it. Unless duratex is the same thing only cheaper.

Thanks,
Dan

[Sydney]

Unless duratex is the same thing only cheaper.

It's not, and the Line-x suff is applied with at high temp with specialized equipment. Duratex application is easy and perfect for DIY.
Are there any Line-X shops in WV? ( I've not found any )

[danderson]

No, there isn't any Line-x shops in the area. I was just using that as an example. I was thinking of some of the DIY roll on stuff. maybe Line-x doesn't have that, I don't know, but some others do.

[WB]

I'll be the first blasphemer!

I didn't use the Duratex. Cost and time were both factors.

Cost and time were exactly why I used Duratex. Use it once and you'll never want to use anything else. I prefer their satin black for cabinets, rather than gloss black. Duratex drys fast, so you have to work fast.

[Tom]

Line-X goes on at lower temps, which is less risky to apply on large metal automotive panels than, say, Rhino-liner applied at 400 DegF.

I Line-X'ed some stuff and it is incredibly tough, even after 100+ gear load/unload cycles.

On a lower scale, Rustoleum flat black Oil-based floor paint with the sandy non-slip powder mixed in isn't bad, and is patched up easily with a spray can outside the venue.

I also like a product called "Duroliner" bed liner which rolls on and touches up with a spray can. Any trip to the Line-X contractor is > $100 so I have a few alternatives based upon the needs of the project.

I believe that all of these coatings outperform Tolex by a wide margin. I don't carpet because it gets smelly after a while, and does a poor job repelling beer/vomitb

[gdougherty]

I don't carpet because it gets smelly after a while, and does a poor job repelling beer/vomitb

+1
Carpet also picks up twigs, hay, leaves, etc. which is annoying and it never looks right after regluing when it eventually starts peeling at the seams. Duratex, etc. just gets re-rolled if scuffed up and wiped down when it gets drug through the dirt.

[David Robinson]

I used some of the Duplicolor spray can bedliner stuff on a 6-sp rack I made when I was bored. I was unimpressed. Better than just paint, but not worth the extra $ IMHO. The roll/brush-on product may be better.

[Tom]

The roll/brush-on product may be better.

There is quite a bit of difference, especially when applied with their textured roller and allowed to build up.

Here are a few pics of the textured stuff. I didn't put much work into the texture, but it has potential. http://picasaweb.google.com/StarclassicTom/Ampeg810

[fender3x]

Hope springs eternal... I look at this every time it pops up to see if there is a viable alternative to duratex. So far, Aldcroft looks like the only really good one for DIY applications--and it's not sold in the US. All the other alternatives are at least as expensive and harder to clean up. Most are more expensive and harder to apply. Only the ones that virtually require professionals and/or their gear to apply are as tough or tougher. The only thing hands down cheaper seems to be regular paint, and that ain't tough enough and won't cover my mistakes

I'd love to see a comparison of Aldcroft and Duratex, but unfortunately they don't seem to get sold on the same continents...

There are folks on the list that have met the Aldcrofts. I have met the folks who own Acrytech... It seems the mfgs are not only good at what they do, they are also really nice, helpful folks. Quite a contrast to dealing with my local autoparts box store.

[Mark Coward]

One idea that I considered, not sure what the cost would be, is the textured plastic panels such as you see covering the walls in many commercial restrooms. It would need to be glued on and have edging & corners installed, but this stuff is really tough. This occurred to me after Bill suggested covering in linoleum a long time ago on the old forum.