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need help identifying this cabinets ita 27X36X36
i have 2 and looking to buy 2 more
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That's a T36. It was replaced in the lineup by the T60.

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Thanks Bill Fitzmaurice

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Bill Fitzmaurice wrote: Sun Mar 26, 2023 12:29 pm That's a T36. It was replaced in the lineup by the T60.
The T60 IIRC is bigger.
Bill normally deletes old designs, so even if you ask, you probably won't be able to get plans.
Your only option for 2 more cabs then becomes buying from someone else, or starting from scratch with a different design...
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DR 250: x 2 melded array, 2x CD horn, March 2012 plans.
T39's: 4 x 20" KL3010LF , 2 x 28" 3012LF.
WH8: x 6 with melded array wired series/parallel.
Bunter's Audio and Lighting "like"s would be most appreciated...

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The T60 is larger in volume, but easier to maneuver being oblong.

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Bill Fitzmaurice wrote: Sun Mar 26, 2023 4:35 pm The T60 is larger in volume, but easier to maneuver being oblong.
Uh huh.
Bill, would the T60 and the T36 work together?
Or does the phase differences between the two designs make it a non mix solution?
Built:
DR 250: x 2 melded array, 2x CD horn, March 2012 plans.
T39's: 4 x 20" KL3010LF , 2 x 28" 3012LF.
WH8: x 6 with melded array wired series/parallel.
Bunter's Audio and Lighting "like"s would be most appreciated...

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Bill Fitzmaurice wrote: Sun Mar 26, 2023 12:29 pm That's a T36. It was replaced in the lineup by the T60.
just curious why it was discontinued? and why no more designs available?

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dimachertnik wrote: Sun Mar 26, 2023 7:54 pm
Bill Fitzmaurice wrote: Sun Mar 26, 2023 12:29 pm That's a T36. It was replaced in the lineup by the T60.
just curious why it was discontinued? and why no more designs available?
The T60 is easier to handle, and performs better.
Bill usually deletes his master file of a superceded design.
Therefore he can't produce one for sale...
Built:
DR 250: x 2 melded array, 2x CD horn, March 2012 plans.
T39's: 4 x 20" KL3010LF , 2 x 28" 3012LF.
WH8: x 6 with melded array wired series/parallel.
Bunter's Audio and Lighting "like"s would be most appreciated...

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Grant Bunter wrote: Sun Mar 26, 2023 5:30 pm Bill, would the T60 and the T36 work together?
Or does the phase differences between the two designs make it a non mix solution?
There's the phase difference, and the response is also different. The T60 is 5dB higher in sensitivity at 30Hz.

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Grant Bunter wrote: Sun Mar 26, 2023 8:06 pm Bill usually deletes his master file of a superceded design...
If true, seems a little short sighted. Other than lack of current builders to contribute recent community construction support, I can't think of any reason not to sell a set of discontinued plans to someone in the situation this guy is in.

If it is truly the case, I've got to imagine there's a certified builder that still has plans and could build a pair for the guy.

If there's a will...
Build in process - 2 WH6, one Alpha 6a loaded, one PRV Audio 6MB250-NDY loaded

Two 2x6 shorty SLA Pro's
One T39, 16", 3012LF loaded
Tall AutoTuba, 20" wide, 2x 8" MCM 55-2421
TruckTuba, 8½" wide, 2x 8" MCM 55-2421

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Seth wrote: Sun Mar 26, 2023 9:50 pm
Grant Bunter wrote: Sun Mar 26, 2023 8:06 pm Bill usually deletes his master file of a superceded design...
If true, seems a little short sighted. Other than lack of current builders to contribute recent community construction support, I can't think of any reason not to sell a set of discontinued plans to someone in the situation this guy is in.

If it is truly the case, I've got to imagine there's a certified builder that still has plans and could build a pair for the guy.

If there's a will...
Hmmm.
Seems to me that the OP has bought pre used cabs, or he would have plans already.
That's not an excuse per se, but IMHO it would make more sense to build from scratch the better performing more recent design. 5dB @ 30hz is nothing to be sneezed at.

My wife is a stickler for "didn't use it in the last 12 months, throw it out" school, and it has to be at least 5 years since I recall a request for T36 plans.
Apart from that, when it comes to my business, people can offer up whatever they want in terms of advice or in discussion, but it doesn't mean I will change what I do.
I imagine, in this, Bill is the same. He is running his business how he sees fit...
Built:
DR 250: x 2 melded array, 2x CD horn, March 2012 plans.
T39's: 4 x 20" KL3010LF , 2 x 28" 3012LF.
WH8: x 6 with melded array wired series/parallel.
Bunter's Audio and Lighting "like"s would be most appreciated...

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True true :thumbsup:
Build in process - 2 WH6, one Alpha 6a loaded, one PRV Audio 6MB250-NDY loaded

Two 2x6 shorty SLA Pro's
One T39, 16", 3012LF loaded
Tall AutoTuba, 20" wide, 2x 8" MCM 55-2421
TruckTuba, 8½" wide, 2x 8" MCM 55-2421

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#13 Post by dimachertnik »

im looking to buy or build the another pair because of the size and looks of the cabinets. the size fits my mids and hi by size perfectly. The T60 way way way too long to fit in my needs and space provided.

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#14 Post by Bill Fitzmaurice »

I no longer have a copy of the T36 plans but you could scale up the T30 by a factor of 1.2 to get a close approximation. That's how the T36 was arrived at.

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#15 Post by dimachertnik »

got it,Thanks. or i can get 4/6 Tuba 30 22" each side and be happy. maybe its better this way, i already have the drivers.

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