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Tuba 45 Build

Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2021 12:14 am
by Pabloaguas
Hey Everyone,

We are building a couple of Tuba 45's! Check out the photos of our build:

Re: Tuba 45 Build

Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2021 12:18 am
by Pabloaguas
More pics

Re: Tuba 45 Build

Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2021 12:36 am
by Seth
Dang Paul... looking good man :thumbsup: Thanks for sharing the build.

I look forward to hearing your impression.

Re: Tuba 45 Build

Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2021 12:51 am
by Seth
Looks like you made a little custom modification. Did you shrink the 45" dimension down an inch or two? Are you just making room for an inset grill frame?
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Re: Tuba 45 Build

Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2021 12:58 am
by Pabloaguas
Really awesome to work with Robert Renick on this (photo left). He is a master cabinet builder with decades of experience. From his guitar building experience, he came up with the idea of using go-bars to press the panels down for glue-up, which meant we could do a full glue up in a couple of hours rather than several days.

The pics don't show it very well, but the tolerances and workmanship on these Tubas are really A+

More pics to come!

Re: Tuba 45 Build

Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2021 1:48 am
by Pabloaguas
Seth wrote: Mon Jan 25, 2021 12:51 am Looks like you made a little custom modification. Did you shrink the 45" dimension down an inch or two? Are you just making room for an inset grill frame?

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Good eye Seth!

Yes, the back of my compact suv is just 43.5 inches wide, so we did slim them down to 43". We did the modification at the mouth to accommodate.

Re: Tuba 45 Build

Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2021 2:39 am
by Seth
Pabloaguas wrote: Mon Jan 25, 2021 1:48 am
Seth wrote: Mon Jan 25, 2021 12:51 am Looks like you made a little custom modification. Did you shrink the 45" dimension down an inch or two? Are you just making room for an inset grill frame?

IMG_8111.jpeg
Good eye Seth!

Yes, the back of my compact suv is just 43.5 inches wide, so we did slim them down to 43". We did the modification at the mouth to accommodate.
Smart solution. I like it. I highly doubt it will effect performance any noticeable amount. Clean mod. Well done :thumbsup:

Re: Tuba 45 Build

Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2021 8:37 am
by himhimself
Had to look up go-bars. Never heard of them. Pretty cool, looks like you used giant ones all the way to the ceiling. Found this link with some good info for the unfamiliar:

http://www.pegasusguitars.com/making-go-bars.html

I just use a mad assortment of 10-15 pound dumbells and bar plates... :D

Re: Tuba 45 Build

Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2021 2:23 pm
by Pabloaguas
More Pics:

Re: Tuba 45 Build

Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2021 4:11 pm
by Grant Bunter
As far as the adhesive goes, are you using PL premium?
Unfortunately, your location isn't listed, where are you?

As long as the adhesive is an expanding polyurethane type it will be ok, but don't be in a rush to take you clamps off.
The longer the items are clamped, the more the adhesive penetrates the nearby materials, leading to stronger joints.
Most of these types gain the majority of their strength in the first 24 hours, but take up to 7 days to cure...

Re: Tuba 45 Build

Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2021 4:38 pm
by jimbo7
himhimself wrote: Mon Jan 25, 2021 8:37 am http://www.pegasusguitars.com/making-go-bars.html

I just use a mad assortment of 10-15 pound dumbells and bar plates... :D

That's pretty cool. You'd need a really big cube to fit a max sized T48 in, though. :shock:

Gym weight are a hot commodity right now. You could sell them, build some "go bars", then used all the leftover money for new drivers! :lol:

Re: Tuba 45 Build

Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2021 10:46 pm
by Pabloaguas
Grant Bunter wrote: Mon Jan 25, 2021 4:11 pm As far as the adhesive goes, are you using PL premium?
Unfortunately, your location isn't listed, where are you?

As long as the adhesive is an expanding polyurethane type it will be ok, but don't be in a rush to take you clamps off.
The longer the items are clamped, the more the adhesive penetrates the nearby materials, leading to stronger joints.
Most of these types gain the majority of their strength in the first 24 hours, but take up to 7 days to cure...
Yes, using pl premium and clamping for about 15-24 hours depending on our workflow. I'm located in Ashland, Oregon... Robert's shop is in the city of Mount Shasta.

Re: Tuba 45 Build

Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2021 11:03 pm
by Seth
It's been a couple days... I've gotta imagine you put the other side on and made your access door flanges...

Making any noise yet?

Re: Tuba 45 Build

Posted: Wed Feb 03, 2021 10:19 am
by Rob Shasta Guitar
Hello Seth, this is Rob. There is a little over an hour and a mountain pass between Ashland and Mount Shasta. Between foul-weather and the shop production schedule, we will be closing these up this weekend. Bold move, but there will be no access port.

Re: Tuba 45 Build

Posted: Wed Feb 03, 2021 11:56 am
by himhimself
Rob Shasta Guitar wrote: Wed Feb 03, 2021 10:19 am . Bold move, but there will be no access port.
Oooo, are you sure? I've gone back into my T30s and had to snug the screws holding the driver. Not much, but then again, I don't have massive hours on them either. Also, I seem to recall some concern with curing PL offgassing and causing deterioration on the drivers. Maybe someone else has more info or personal experience with that, but I'd check before sealing the whole thing up. Good luck, can't wait to hear your review of how they sound when complete.