There is the obvious issue of plugging the mains connector into a speaker socket and toasting your drivers with an entertaining (for others) bang and a flash, but then there is the far more dangerous scenario where one box is linked to another box with something like a Speakon to TRS cable (we've all done it
Speakon connectors for power supply... WTF...
Speakon connectors for power supply... WTF...
Am I mistaken or are people starting to use Speakons for mains voltage power supply? is there another similar looking connector? Nobody could possibly be that stupid could they?
There is the obvious issue of plugging the mains connector into a speaker socket and toasting your drivers with an entertaining (for others) bang and a flash, but then there is the far more dangerous scenario where one box is linked to another box with something like a Speakon to TRS cable (we've all done it
). Now plug the power into the speaker by mistake and you have a TRS 240V death wand
. If you think this is unlikely let me regale you with a little tail! This happened on a gold mine I was working on. An operator noticed that the cyanide was not flowing into a tank at the correct rate. After checking the pumps and valves he decided to try and blow the cyanide pipe clear with compressed air, He removed the standard pneumatic fitting from the air line, fitted a new fitting to suit the cyanide pipe, turned on the air, and went to investigate the situation. Now as you all know, air can be compressed, cyanide cannot, especially with a positive displacement pump (look it up), so all that happened was the cyanide decided to go and have a little look at the pneumatic air network and got pumped everywhere including into pneumatically operated valves and into air supplies in the laboratory and workshops! Cyanide, my friends, is VERY nasty stuff and gives off a lovely sleeping gas when exposed to air, unfortunately there is no wakey-up antidote for this kind of sleeping. All this because someone used the wrong connector! 
There is the obvious issue of plugging the mains connector into a speaker socket and toasting your drivers with an entertaining (for others) bang and a flash, but then there is the far more dangerous scenario where one box is linked to another box with something like a Speakon to TRS cable (we've all done it
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Re: Speakon connectors for power supply... WTF...
Powercons are used for power, not Speakon.
Re: Speakon connectors for power supply... WTF...
Good, I was worried 
Can I expect to see SignalKons next ?
Can I expect to see SignalKons next ?
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2 x DR250 (Kappalite 3010MB, ASD1001S)
2 X T39 24" (Kappalite 3012LF)
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Re: Speakon connectors for power supply... WTF...
Yes, they are called XLR.SimonD wrote:Good, I was worried
Can I expect to see SignalKons next ?
6 - T39 3012LF
4 - OT12 2512
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Re: Speakon connectors for power supply... WTF...
Speakon and Powercon connectors are not compatible. Neutrik is smart enough to know that users sometimes are not smart enough.
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4 - OT12 2512
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Re: Speakon connectors for power supply... WTF...
Neutrik, smart, yes.Bruce Weldy wrote:Speakon and Powercon connectors are not compatible. Neutrik is smart enough to know that users sometimes are not smart enough.
There is some serious questions about using them in Australia though, due to our amazingly stupid electrical statutes.
In another forum I belong to, there was a discussion about powercon in Australia.
Here's some comments, please note they relate to AUSTRALIA only:
"...that any connector carrying 240 mains voltage MUST be tool only de- assembled / removable , hence bring able to simply turn the blue ring and expose live wires renders the powercon not suitable." (ie, the powercon is not captively held together by a screw)
"Powercon connector is also rated at 20 amp ( probably 16 amp in Europe ), that means at least some of the appliances that have a powercon inlet would be rated at more than 10 amps, yet all powercon connector leads I have seen are terminated into a 10 amp plug.
To be fair also, the inclusion of a captive device versus the humble IEC plug is very welcome
By the way, standards Australia has confirmed, all mains plugs must have an Australian certificate number printed on the item, hence powercon, at least the ones in front of me are not " technically " legal" "
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DR 250: x 2 melded array, 2x CD horn, March 2012 plans.
T39's: 4 x 20" KL3010LF , 2 x 28" 3012LF.
WH8: x 6 with melded array wired series/parallel.
Bunter's Audio and Lighting "like"s would be most appreciated...
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Re: Speakon connectors for power supply... WTF...
+1. If they weren't superior Neutrik would not have brought them to market, nor would they have passed North American and European regulations.Grant Bunter wrote: Neutrik, smart, yes.
There is some serious questions about using them in Australia though, due to our amazingly stupid electrical statutes.