greetings from east of the Atlanta metro, Georgia, USA

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aeolos
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greetings from east of the Atlanta metro, Georgia, USA

#1 Post by aeolos »

Hi all,

Many thanks for this opportunity to say "hello." Like so many, I've returned to my love for music, performing, and pro audio gear, after many years away. In the late 1970s I owned a little sound re-enforcement company and played in garage and bar bands. Was never much good at any of it, but had a lot of fun and even learned a little bit about how people who are good do it. And like so many, my day job is in IT, where my employer gives me the great privilege of working as a systems architect and strategic planner, and getting paid for it. There is tremendous satisfaction in designing and building things that work, as everyone here knows.

Found Bill's website while looking for plans for speakers that will be part of a small rig intended to deliver high-quality audio to audiences numbering 50 to 200 or so. Don't laugh too hard now: the (at this point only dreamed-of) act will be a solo performer (me) on guitars, keyboards, and vocals, using various effects boxes, loopers, and so on. Now working to regain and extend whatever performing skills I may once have had, and since this is a labor of love not profit, want to build as much of the gear as possible. Will be building a Parts-o-caster, winding the pickups with an electric drill, for example. It's so much fun! Really it's more than fun, but there's not a word I can think of at the moment that describes how it feels to return to performance art as an old guy. Complicated.

In the day, my company's rig used JBL factory-made cabinets. As an enthusiast (emphatically not an audio nor electronic engineer, nor a competent businessman) I didn't know any better, and thought that JBL gear sounded better than anything else that was available at the time. Also I admired the stoutness of JBL's approach to design and construction, so I "invested" (wasted) tons of money. That rig sounded pretty good. But the price was not right, and this time around I want some of my own sweat and blood in the system. Will try to avoid tears.

Bill's designs, and you who post on this forum, are so impressive that I bought the plans for the Omni 15 TallBoy and the panel-cutting jig. The project plan is: start off with a pair of Omni 15 TBs, built in the 2-12 configuration using 3012LFs, with 6CBMRA midrange and APT150 tweeter, and see what happens :fingers: :cowboy: . Have in the past built simple speaker cabinets--copies of JBL 4312 so-called "control monitors" and 2-way wedge monitors for stage use--and have a cheap table saw, mitre saw, jigsaw, router, and nail guns of various sizes, used in home remodeling projects. So the expectation is that given the relative simplicity of the Omni 15 TB design, I can build a pair. Found a supplier of real Baltic Birch plywood here in the Atlanta metro and am ready to go!

Thanks to Bill, Mark, and all of you for being here. You have my great respect and admiration: you do excellent work, and inspire me to do the same. And thanks in advance for your patience with this n00b and my dumb questions. I don't know what I don't know, but am eager to learn.

All the best, and more questions coming soon in the appropriate topic
--aeolos
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Re: greetings from east of the Atlanta metro, Georgia, USA

#2 Post by Grant Bunter »

Hello aeolos,
Welcome to the forum :)

Great plans, go for it!
Ask as much as you like, most people here are ready and willing to help.
Post up a build thread too.

And you might like to consider a Wedgehorn, they're great!
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T39's: 4 x 20" KL3010LF , 2 x 28" 3012LF.
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#3 Post by aeolos »

Wow, that was fast Grant! Thanks so much for your welcome.

You're way ahead of me, and you are right, the little sealed-cabinet-12"-with-very-cheap-horn 2-way wedges I've got now sound like oatmeal boxes, and that is being charitable. Built them 30+ years ago and they have sentimental value, but that's about it. 13-ply 18mm Baltic Birch, perhaps 1/6 ft^3, stained and polyurethaned: nice boxes if you don't want to use them to put speakers in I suppose, but I don't know what else you could do with them. Maybe use them as jackstands or chocks or something, very strong they are :lol: . They latch together into a semi-cube. Heavy boogers.

That will be Speaker Project Sprint 2 then. And I will post a build thread, maybe it will be a help to someone else.

Best
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#4 Post by bzb »

The first time you fire it up, your mind will be blown. I've built over a dozen of Bill's cabs and they're all incredible for what they are, what power they use, and how much they cost.

I still have some commercial cabs and use them for certain situations (including JBL boxes), as I believe in the right tool for the job. That being said, my OT12/T39 combo is used at 75% of my DJ gigs.

Good luck and enjoy the build process.
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#5 Post by doncolga »

Welcome to the forum. Get ready to be obsessed with this stuff.
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#6 Post by aeolos »

Thanks Bobby and doncolga! Talk about motivation, that bug has got me now. Nothing will do but to build these boxes. I have a tendency to obsession anyway, particularly with audio gear. Have been playing with it since I was 10 years old: first piece of gear was a little 3" reel-to-reel Sears and Roebuck tape recorder.

And here is an amazing thing: my wife is onboard with this project. She saw me keying away at 11:00 PM on a Tuesday night and asked "what are you doing?" and I told her, and she said "I guess they'll go in here, huh?" Meaning our bedroom! And she wasn't being cynical! What is going on here?

The plywood is way on the other side of town, and this is not a small metro. But I'm heading over there Thursday or Friday.

All the best
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#7 Post by bzb »

If you haven't checked them out, Suwanee Lumber here in Suwanee has 5x5 Baltic Birch panels for a good price. I haven't purchased any from them in a while, but a few years ago, I was paying just over $20 a sheet for them. The prices fluctuate, but I never paid more than $30 something for a 5x5.

Lucky for me, they're about 2 miles from my house :)
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#8 Post by Bas Gooiker »

Welcome to the forum aeolos,

Have fun building and dont forget the pictures...
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#9 Post by Michael M »

Welcome!

I agree, Suwanee Lumber has what you need. I work here in Suwanee and have checked them out.

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#10 Post by aeolos »

Hi Bobby, Bas, and Michael,

Bobby and Michael, that is great news. Was going to go all the way over to Atlanta Hardwood in Mableton. Your pointer cuts the 1-way mileage from 45 to 20, and keeps me off 285.

Bas, I will indeed remember the photos. Fired up! Will finally put the shop back in working order, that has been accumulating dust and cobwebs for over 5 years now.

You guys are the best, many thanks indeed
--aeolos
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#11 Post by bzb »

Yup yup - they have plenty in stock all the time. Just called em and they're $27 a sheet. I always take my straight edge and a battery circular saw to take off a foot... 5x5 is a pain to haul, even 2 miles.
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Traktor S4 - Vestax VCI-100 - TTX - MOTU Ultralite - Yamaha 01V

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#12 Post by aeolos »

Unbelievable. Atlanta Hardwood lists it for about $47.00/sheet on their website if memory serves. I wonder if a 5X5 will go diagonally into the back of my old F-150 with boxtop. Bill gives cut sheets for 5X5 as well as 4X8, but they show 17" depth instead of 18", as will be required for the grille, if I am reading things right. So maybe taking a foot off is do-able, will have to lay out a cut sheet with the 18" depth and see. Thank you sir!
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