TLAH Pro based cab

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Keryn O'Shea
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TLAH Pro based cab

#1 Post by Keryn O'Shea »

Ok here's a cab built with leftover 27" panels, based on the TLAH Pro, (it needs to be 5 inches longer to be a TLA, yes?) and loaded with free woofers, given very generously by a friend!

This is all I could find about them:

Type: 8” 120WRMS Subwoofer Driver 4 Ohms
Warranty: 12 Month
Brand: MaxAV

• Nominal Diameter: 200mm
• Nominal Impedance: 4 Ohms
• Frequency Range: 80-6KHz
• Power Handling: 120WRMS, 190W peak
• Sensitivity: 90± 2 dB/W/M
• Voice Coil Diameter: 38mm
• Winding Material: KSV
• Magnet: 30 Oz

It has Gt-1016's, with the hi-pass filter, looking back they should've been cut & shut, because they're too close to the ends...
Has 3 braces for the baffle.
The top, or bottom is open, depending if its on a pole or freestanding, the end with the feet is open, the pole mount end is closed with the mount in it, so they're upside down in this photo..
They sound very nice, around 4khz needs cutting though, could a filter for the woofers help? running a DCX2496, at 100hz pass with LAB12 28" T30's, sounds happy!
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non-TLAHP.jpg
AT8 14", AT10 19", T30 28" LAB12, T48 36" 3015LF, THT 20" LAB15, SLA 4x3"/4x4", CArray 6x4", TLAH, TLAP, J10 FA, J12 FA, OT8 CD, OT12 FA, OT15 CD, SLAP 2x6"/4x6", WH8, DR280 MA, XF210. Next J10L

67baja
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Re: TLAH Pro based cab

#2 Post by 67baja »

Low pass the woofs at 3500.
2 THTs, 2 TLAH, SLA curved, 1 8-AT, 1 AT JBL 1002D, 4 Otop12s, Jack 12, TT with Eminence 10", 2 SLAs, 1 T30 slim, 2 T30s (2-10" each), SLA Pros, TrT.

Keryn O'Shea
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Re: TLAH Pro based cab

#3 Post by Keryn O'Shea »

Nice, I'll try that, thanks Baja
AT8 14", AT10 19", T30 28" LAB12, T48 36" 3015LF, THT 20" LAB15, SLA 4x3"/4x4", CArray 6x4", TLAH, TLAP, J10 FA, J12 FA, OT8 CD, OT12 FA, OT15 CD, SLAP 2x6"/4x6", WH8, DR280 MA, XF210. Next J10L

MissileCrisis
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Re: TLAH Pro based cab

#4 Post by MissileCrisis »

TLAH is 40 inches, TLAH Pro (piezos) is 6 feet. You maybe a bit off, SLA pro's are the shorter one's (mid 20's of inches)
Built
2 x TLAH
1 Titan 39 (lab 12, 15 inch)
1 Tuba 60 (lab 12, 20 inch)
SLA Center
2 x Mini MLTP subwoofers
1 x 212 TH (custom)
2 x Mini-Karlsonators
Owned, but not built
2 x Jack 12 (2512, melded)

sine143
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Re: TLAH Pro based cab

#5 Post by sine143 »

could maybe also consider getting the piezo centers a bit closer, but IDK how much a difference it would make without getting them REALLY close lol.
Built:
2x Tuba 30s delta12lf loaded (gone)
4x Otop12 d2512 loaded
8x t48s (18, 18, 24, 24, 30, 30) 3015lf loaded
2x AT (1 mcm, 1 gto 804)
2x SLA Pro (dayton pa6, 6 goldwood piezo loaded)
1x bastard XF208

2x OT212 (delta pro 450a loaded, eminence psd)

Keryn O'Shea
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Re: TLAH Pro based cab

#6 Post by Keryn O'Shea »

Should've mentioned Missilecrisis that the cab is based on the bottom half of the rectangular TLAH Pro! Sine143- definately integrate the piezos if we like the cab and have more free woofers! Both the cabs cost $82.00 all up,
which was the piezos and filter components, also using the leftover duratex in the pan from painting other cabs,
offcuts of (not old) ply, wire and sound deadening, etc.. Taking them to an engagement party next weekend, so can play with them there after fitting a filter for the woofers, the they'll need no eq at all, maybe just a resistor change in the piezo filter to tame them just a smidge.
Thanks for the feedback, appreciated. I was a little nervous showing these here, as they're frankensteins, and I'm a nube on this scene.
AT8 14", AT10 19", T30 28" LAB12, T48 36" 3015LF, THT 20" LAB15, SLA 4x3"/4x4", CArray 6x4", TLAH, TLAP, J10 FA, J12 FA, OT8 CD, OT12 FA, OT15 CD, SLAP 2x6"/4x6", WH8, DR280 MA, XF210. Next J10L

67baja
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Re: TLAH Pro based cab

#7 Post by 67baja »

Keryn O'Shea wrote:Should've mentioned Missilecrisis that the cab is based on the bottom half of the rectangular TLAH Pro! Sine143- definately integrate the piezos if we like the cab and have more free woofers! Both the cabs cost $82.00 all up,
which was the piezos and filter components, also using the leftover duratex in the pan from painting other cabs,
offcuts of (not old) ply, wire and sound deadening, etc.. Taking them to an engagement party next weekend, so can play with them there after fitting a filter for the woofers, the they'll need no eq at all, maybe just a resistor change in the piezo filter to tame them just a smidge.
Thanks for the feedback, appreciated. I was a little nervous showing these here, as they're frankensteins, and I'm a nube on this scene.
See my SLA "Semi-Pros":
http://billfitzmaurice.info/forum/viewt ... mi#p215548
2 THTs, 2 TLAH, SLA curved, 1 8-AT, 1 AT JBL 1002D, 4 Otop12s, Jack 12, TT with Eminence 10", 2 SLAs, 1 T30 slim, 2 T30s (2-10" each), SLA Pros, TrT.

Keryn O'Shea
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Re: TLAH Pro based cab

#8 Post by Keryn O'Shea »

Thats the way the piezos should have been, yea... a much better way. I'll probably end up giving these to the guy who gave me the drivers, need room for my next personal build...a pair of 41'' dual 15 T48's,
or 4x36" T48's, pro's & cons for both, what would you do if you had 4xLAB15's, just sittn there, lookn at you.... (not interested in the Tuba60 yet).
AT8 14", AT10 19", T30 28" LAB12, T48 36" 3015LF, THT 20" LAB15, SLA 4x3"/4x4", CArray 6x4", TLAH, TLAP, J10 FA, J12 FA, OT8 CD, OT12 FA, OT15 CD, SLAP 2x6"/4x6", WH8, DR280 MA, XF210. Next J10L

MissileCrisis
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Re: TLAH Pro based cab

#9 Post by MissileCrisis »

I would build T60's, why would you build that multitude of T48? Are you not interested at all in <35 Hz? It's your money, do as you please :). IF you are set on T48's go for the 4 at 36 inches. You don't want a pair of dual 15's, Someone else will chime in with a story but IMO you will wish you had the 5 hz extension gain you get from having 4 and also you will be scalable with more total output (win win).
Built
2 x TLAH
1 Titan 39 (lab 12, 15 inch)
1 Tuba 60 (lab 12, 20 inch)
SLA Center
2 x Mini MLTP subwoofers
1 x 212 TH (custom)
2 x Mini-Karlsonators
Owned, but not built
2 x Jack 12 (2512, melded)

Keryn O'Shea
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Re: TLAH Pro based cab

#10 Post by Keryn O'Shea »

Good advice Missile crisis re multiple T48's, scaleable wins. Regarding T60's, It's been all Tuba's around here, low is great, now it's time for LOUD! Havn't built DR280's yet, but a pair should be fine, which to start first?
Attachments
T30LAB12.jpg
AT8 14", AT10 19", T30 28" LAB12, T48 36" 3015LF, THT 20" LAB15, SLA 4x3"/4x4", CArray 6x4", TLAH, TLAP, J10 FA, J12 FA, OT8 CD, OT12 FA, OT15 CD, SLAP 2x6"/4x6", WH8, DR280 MA, XF210. Next J10L

sine143
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Re: TLAH Pro based cab

#11 Post by sine143 »

Keryn O'Shea wrote:Good advice Missile crisis re multiple T48's, scaleable wins. Regarding T60's, It's been all Tuba's around here, low is great, now it's time for LOUD! Havn't built DR280's yet, but a pair should be fine, which to start first?
she looks wide.... think you might need the double braces!
Built:
2x Tuba 30s delta12lf loaded (gone)
4x Otop12 d2512 loaded
8x t48s (18, 18, 24, 24, 30, 30) 3015lf loaded
2x AT (1 mcm, 1 gto 804)
2x SLA Pro (dayton pa6, 6 goldwood piezo loaded)
1x bastard XF208

2x OT212 (delta pro 450a loaded, eminence psd)

Keryn O'Shea
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Re: TLAH Pro based cab

#12 Post by Keryn O'Shea »

They're a pair with 27inch panels, single braces, 1xLAB12c, and have had 80hrs work without anything breaking up! Anyway were off topic now, Thanks for all the feedback people, a pair of XF210's and 212's for the same customer then onto the Titans & DR280's for me.
AT8 14", AT10 19", T30 28" LAB12, T48 36" 3015LF, THT 20" LAB15, SLA 4x3"/4x4", CArray 6x4", TLAH, TLAP, J10 FA, J12 FA, OT8 CD, OT12 FA, OT15 CD, SLAP 2x6"/4x6", WH8, DR280 MA, XF210. Next J10L

sine143
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Re: TLAH Pro based cab

#13 Post by sine143 »

i know they work fine, but for all you know they could be plus 3 db with doubled up braces... just sayin. I know we're off topic, but kudos on the tops, they look great, and at 80 bucks the price is nice! :clap:
Built:
2x Tuba 30s delta12lf loaded (gone)
4x Otop12 d2512 loaded
8x t48s (18, 18, 24, 24, 30, 30) 3015lf loaded
2x AT (1 mcm, 1 gto 804)
2x SLA Pro (dayton pa6, 6 goldwood piezo loaded)
1x bastard XF208

2x OT212 (delta pro 450a loaded, eminence psd)

Keryn O'Shea
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Re: TLAH Pro based cab

#14 Post by Keryn O'Shea »

Thanks mate, +3db... holy crap, that much?
AT8 14", AT10 19", T30 28" LAB12, T48 36" 3015LF, THT 20" LAB15, SLA 4x3"/4x4", CArray 6x4", TLAH, TLAP, J10 FA, J12 FA, OT8 CD, OT12 FA, OT15 CD, SLAP 2x6"/4x6", WH8, DR280 MA, XF210. Next J10L

sine143
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Location: Raleigh NC

Re: TLAH Pro based cab

#15 Post by sine143 »

braces keep cab vibrations down. cab vibrations are energy that could be better spent making sweet sweet bass babys 8)

at this point I wouldnt worry about it. but make your next wide pair with the recomended brace count and let me know how it goes. adding the mouth braces and cross brack to my 30" wide t48 SIGNIFICANTLY increased output (at least plus 3 db, based on how noticibal it was, but not measured lol)
Built:
2x Tuba 30s delta12lf loaded (gone)
4x Otop12 d2512 loaded
8x t48s (18, 18, 24, 24, 30, 30) 3015lf loaded
2x AT (1 mcm, 1 gto 804)
2x SLA Pro (dayton pa6, 6 goldwood piezo loaded)
1x bastard XF208

2x OT212 (delta pro 450a loaded, eminence psd)

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