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Pole/column speaker

#1 Post by norv »

Are there any plans to do a BFM pole/column type speaker design, similar to the Bose L1?
A column of cross-firing piezos matched with a Jack10 for bass could be a winner :)

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#2 Post by Israel »

half an hour after seeing that bose stuff i am still tryin to find how much power does that system has or perhaps how anyone can cover 500 peeps with that system as it is described
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#3 Post by Bruce Weldy »

Used 'em. For a one-man show in a small place......it's ok....not great, but ok. Just heard a guy use one yesterday....wasn't that impressed.

The whole idea of having the thing behind you serving as a monitor and mains sounds good on paper, but the performer hears it well and it's pretty much lost once it hits the audience.

I am extremely un-impressed with these high-priced doodads......

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#4 Post by Bill Fitzmaurice »

norv wrote:Are there any plans to do a BFM pole/column type speaker design, similar to the Bose L1?
I'll do that the same day that Lamborghini comes out with a design similar to the KIA Rio.

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#5 Post by BrentEvans »

Build a couple of SLA Pros, put a T39 under them... BAM! Done.

Then.... deploy them correctly to either side of the stage. BAM! Better!
Bruce Weldy wrote: The whole idea of having the thing behind you serving as a monitor and mains sounds good on paper, but the performer hears it well and it's pretty much lost once it hits the audience.
This. I work for a Bose Pro dealer, so I get to play with their stuff (and install it) quite frequently. The L1 is nothing more than two MA12 cabinets stacked on top of each other with a base, processing, amps, and bass bins to go with them. Want to know how the SLA Pro stacks up against that?

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BAM!

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#6 Post by norv »

I'll do that the same day that Lamborghini comes out with a design similar to the KIA Rio.
lol.. I get the picture :owned:

I'll towel that idea, then, I never seen that Bose system until this morning. Thanks for the prompt response!
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#7 Post by LelandCrooks »

BrentEvans wrote:\nst that?

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BAM!

/emeril
Wow, Brent. Sure you won't get hammered for that? Never seen a bose graph anywhere.
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#8 Post by shawn_g »

That graph really goes with the old saying:

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#9 Post by Bill Fitzmaurice »

LelandCrooks wrote:Never seen a bose graph anywhere.
AFAIK that's the only graph that Bose has ever published, and why they published that one is a matter of great conjecture.

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#10 Post by Israel »

ohh that blue one is a response graph, i thought it was a rollercoaster!!! fun is dead now. :slap:
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#11 Post by Dan30 »

77db at 100hz? What a POS.
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#12 Post by Israel »

Bill Fitzmaurice wrote: I'll do that the same day that Lamborghini comes out with a design similar to the KIA Rio.
"And the Lamb-o will cost that of 10x thy price of the Kia-ller and even that the people will buy the Lamb-o arguing that the elevated cost is cause it have magical powers" biblical :owned:
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#13 Post by 88h88 »

I'm glad Bill didn't say Aston Martin...

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#14 Post by Studarl »

A friend of mine has the L1 mk1 system with the full height array and 2 subs per side.

He raves about them but to be honest when I saw him use one stack for his solo gig I could hear there was potential but it was badly executed.

I get the feeling the subs are crossed over pretty high but as we all know, getting the bottom end of a vocal sound from the floor makes it very muddy.

I wanted to build an SLA with a small sub to prove that he could do better for less but haven't got round to it yet.

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#15 Post by Chris Betancourt »

Aston Martin Penny Racer wow..... I remember collecting them.
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