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New Mixer Advice

Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2011 4:59 pm
by doncolga
Hey,

You all got me thinking about my Behringer mixer...

I'm thinking about this one as a replacement:

http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/MG124cx

Thoughts or comments? Do you think I'll be able to hear a difference? What got me really thinking was that my local music store commented that the A&H's sounded *much* better than others in their inventory (Peavey, Mackie, Behringer). I figured there may be a sonic difference between this one and my current Behringer. As an analogy, I used to think that a guitar was a guitar, until I played a nice Strat...incredible difference. The only mixers I've *ever* used have been Mackies (original CR1604 from early 1990s) and Behringers.

Donny

Re: New Mixer Advice

Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2011 5:48 pm
by BrentEvans
I've used both. The yamaha can take a bit more level, and the compressors are decent. As for perceptile sonic quality at reasonable gain levels... not so much. If you went up to A&H, then you might get something.

Re: New Mixer Advice

Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2011 8:42 pm
by Doug Hart
I've used a lot of Behringer mixers, and I have no problems with them.
Recently, I upgraded a customer's system by swapping out their Behringer mixer for an A&H MixWiz.
Very noticeable difference.
I really didn't think I would hear a difference, but I did, and it was significant.

Re: New Mixer Advice

Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2011 9:05 pm
by mikeratliff
If you are going analog only have look at these, I have used them in the past and they proved to be very solid.

http://www.apb-dynasonics.com

As long as I have been around pro-audio I have never worked with much Yamaha equipment, people swear by it though.

Re: New Mixer Advice

Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2011 11:19 pm
by Jon Barnhardt
I have an analog 16 ch yamaha. Night and day from any behringer I've ever had. Would like to pick up a mix wiz someday though...

Re: New Mixer Advice

Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2011 12:19 am
by Bruce Weldy
Jon Barnhardt wrote:I have an analog 16 ch yamaha. Night and day from any behringer I've ever had.
Ditto on the MG166cx - great little board. That's what I use for my band.

Re: New Mixer Advice

Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2011 12:23 am
by Benj Ross
I want to check out one of the Yammy boards, but havent had the chance yet.

I recently got an A&H mixwiz version 2 and it is really sweet. Over on gearslutz.com a guy did a comparison with the MixWiz, a mackie 1604 (which I upgraded from), and a mackie onyx I believe, and the difference was pretty dramatic to me. The A&H sounded so much more open and real with an acoustic guitar clip.

I think you will be able to notice the difference with the upgrade.

My .02

Benj

Re: New Mixer Advice

Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2011 7:09 am
by Bill Fitzmaurice
doncolga wrote:Hey,

You all got me thinking about my Behringer mixer...

I'm thinking about this one as a replacement:

http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/MG124cx
You'll outgrow that in short order. Much better:
http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/MG166CX/

Pay once, cry once.

Re: New Mixer Advice

Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2011 7:39 pm
by doncolga
I've decided on a Yamaha...should be here Friday...woohoo!

Re: New Mixer Advice

Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2011 8:35 pm
by Dan30
doncolga wrote:I've decided on a Yamaha...should be here Friday...woohoo!
I'm jealous. I need to save up for a better mixer. This 6 channel Behringer isn't gonna cut it. I'm thinking of picking up a Yamaha MG206 when I have more disposable income.

Re: New Mixer Advice

Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2011 10:55 am
by bzb
I have the 124 installed in my rack that I use at 95% of my gigs. I used to have a 166, but sold it after I got the 01V.

I've used the 01V at 2 gigs... not exactly the best ROI yet.

I've had quite a few mixers over the years. Behringer, Mackie, A&H, Alesis, Vestax, Rolls. I've stuck with Yamahas for the last 3 years and couldn't be more pleased with them. You'll be happy with it, I'm sure. Especially if you got it at Sweetwater.

Re: New Mixer Advice

Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2011 12:34 pm
by doncolga
:chainsaw:

I had to cancel my order...tire emergency and one had to be replaced...$200...poof! but at least the ride has safe tires...can't skimp on that.

Anyway...I'll have something to look forward to later. I'll still be going with the Yamaha.

I do have a question though...how are the built in effects on those? I usually use only three effects for my own vocals...hall, room and short delay. From what I can tell, there's no short delay on it...like 50 ms or so. I'm also suspect of any effects that include "karaoke". :?

I was going with the Yamaha without effects and compression only, but the onboard would be handy. Are those worth it, or should I stick with an outboard Lexicon MPX 100 http://www.sixstardj.com/leprompx110d.html that I already have. I'd have MIDI control over it, which would be very nice.

Thanks!

Donny

Re: New Mixer Advice

Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2011 1:00 pm
by Bill Fitzmaurice
doncolga wrote: I was going with the Yamaha without effects and compression only, but the onboard would be handy. Are those worth it, or should I stick with an outboard Lexicon MPX 100
The onboard effects won't have the studio quality of the Lexicon, but for live use you don't need it.

Re: New Mixer Advice

Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2011 1:55 pm
by Bruce Weldy
doncolga wrote: I'm also suspect of any effects that include "karaoke". :?
That's actually one of the better sounding delays...... I thought about painting over the name though....

Re: New Mixer Advice

Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2011 2:15 pm
by jswingchun
Bruce Weldy wrote:
doncolga wrote: I'm also suspect of any effects that include "karaoke". :?
That's actually one of the better sounding delays...... I thought about painting over the name though....
+1, I use that delay all the time.