Wanted: T60 impressions and reviews

[Greg Plouvier]

I'm seriously considering these and would like to hear from those who are using them.

Thanks!

[Dave Non-Zero]

I just set up a system last night in a 200capacity venue for a rap album launch gig- backing track and radio mic-

system was

1dual lab 12 t60 in the centre doing 25-60hz
6 t48 50-100hz
4 dr280 from 100hz up
2 dr250 on the top tipped up to hit the balcony. 100hz up

The t60 is another level. I love it. I am definitely making more. It just has an effortless authority and sounds more solid than any number of t48. It has a mouth 'blast zone' and tactile feel that I can't really reach with the t48.

If you can pack them- and that's a big if, coz they are undeniably huge, then I would recommend them. I am dyingnto hear a stack of 4 duals or equivalent. I'll be making slims for my next pair tho. then maybe another dual, just for the symmetry.

[UROK]

I just set up a system last night in a 200capacity venue for a rap album launch gig- backing track and radio mic-

system was

1dual lab 12 t60 in the centre doing 25-60hz
6 t48 50-100hz
4 dr280 from 100hz up
2 dr250 on the top tipped up to hit the balcony. 100hz up

The t60 is another level. I love it. I am definitely making more. It just has an effortless authority and sounds more solid than any number of t48. It has a mouth 'blast zone' and tactile feel that I can't really reach with the t48.

If you can pack them- and that's a big if, coz they are undeniably huge, then I would recommend them. I am dyingnto hear a stack of 4 duals or equivalent. I'll be making slims for my next pair tho. then maybe another dual, just for the symmetry.

[Mikey]

1dual lab 12 t60 in the centre doing 25-60hz
6 t48 50-100hz
4 dr280 from 100hz up
2 dr250 on the top tipped up to hit the balcony. 100hz up

The t60 is another level. I love it. I am definitely making more. It just has an effortless authority and sounds more solid than any number of t48. It has a mouth 'blast zone' and tactile feel that I can't really reach with the t48.

Once you have more T60s, will you be leaving-out the T48s? It SEEMS logical to just cross the T60s into DR280s at ~80hz, but you aren't the first one to employ subs with deep subs, using Bill's designs (WiSounds comes immediately to mind), so I'm curious why you'd choose to haul all of those "extra" cabs for the 50-100hz range. Don't misunderstand; I'm NOT, IN ANY WAY, saying "you shouldn't be doing that" ... I'm asking you to please attempt to explain the benefit of what you're doing.

Also, if a person were to design a 4-way system (deep sub / sub / mid / high), wouldn't T39s be a better choice for the subs (50-100hz)? If you increase the 15"w T60 in the chart below by 6db to approximate a dually, a 30"w T39 seems like a near-perfect match (and it's about 3 cu ft smaller than a 24"w T48).

[Dave Non-Zero]

You've hit the nail on the head Mikey.
once I've gotmore t60s, ill be switchin cabs. The t48s will be used for live shows and installs, and my club system will be a four way system. The only problem is I have a shed load of 3015lfs and I don't want to give up on them, so I'm going to experiment with some other designs that are smaller but still use the 3015lf.
Looks like I'll be going tapped horn for the 60-100hz midbass.
It comes back to that slight distortion 'kick' that I'm still looking for.
T60- tapped horn- dr280.
Can't wait to get it properly optimised. It's been a bit of a bodge together the few times I've done it so far.

[SeisTres]

The only problem is I have a shed load of 3015lfs and I don't want to give up on them, so I'm going to experiment with some other designs that are smaller but still use the 3015lf.

Why not the hd15? Extremely small box with just about the range you need. Or you could also try to omni15sub.

[Dave Non-Zero]

Yeah I've got a couple of HD15s already. But i like experimenting. plus I like the idea of tapped horns.

[Ken Lustgarten]

You've hit the nail on the head Mikey.
once I've gotmore t60s, ill be switchin cabs. The t48s will be used for live shows and installs, and my club system will be a four way system. The only problem is I have a shed load of 3015lfs and I don't want to give up on them, so I'm going to experiment with some other designs that are smaller but still use the 3015lf.
Looks like I'll be going tapped horn for the 60-100hz midbass.
It comes back to that slight distortion 'kick' that I'm still looking for.
T60- tapped horn- dr280.
Can't wait to get it properly optimised. It's been a bit of a bodge together the few times I've done it so far.

Seems like the old Tuba 36 just might be a great way to go since you have a boat load of 3015lf's. I have 2 lab 12's laying around that are destined for T39's but in the not so distant future I will be building a T60 (maybe a pair of slims) just for fun since I already have the drivers

[Dave Non-Zero]

Did I not mention I have the extra lab12s already too.
plus I've made a t36 and much prefer the other designs. There is a reason the t36 was made obsolete by the t60.

[UROK]

There is a reason the t36 was made obsolete by the t60.

It was the dip, it was the dip!

Need quite a few T36s to smooth it.

No more!

The chart for the dual T60 is awesome. Extension and sensitivity.

An amazing achievement when we are always talking about trade offs.

Again, Mr Fitzmaurice THANK YOU.

Size does matter!

[Greg Plouvier]

It has a mouth 'blast zone'

I'm liking that comment!
I'm hoping I can pull the trigger on 4 - 27 inchers/lab15 real soon. I may use my kick cab between them and my tops...we'll see.

Or OT15's with the T60's - thoughts anyone?

[UROK]

It has a mouth 'blast zone'

I'm liking that comment!
I'm hoping I can pull the trigger on 4 - 27 inchers/lab15 real soon. I may use my kick cab between them and my tops...we'll see.

Or OT15's with the T60's - thoughts anyone?

Forgive my nubicity, why not DRs Greg?

Those 4 T60s look good for DR280s. No?

[Greg Plouvier]

Well honestly I don't relish the thought of building DR's.

That's why I'm considering: 1. kick cabs with my current tops - currently crossing @ 110 - they might do ok with T60's and no kicks.
2. OT15's crossed a little lower - 80ish ~

[Dave Non-Zero]

If you can transport 4 27inch t60 then you can build DRs.

On the other hand, close up, driven hard, the OT15 may have more of that distortion kick than the DRs, and therefor not need kick bins.

Now I don't know whether to build another couple of hd15 to try a block of 4... Hmmm. I'll have to try this stuff out and write a proper system build thread.

[jcmbowman]

There is a reason the t36 was made obsolete by the t60.

It was the dip, it was the dip!

Need quite a few T36s to smooth it.

No more!

The chart for the dual T60 is awesome. Extension and sensitivity.

An amazing achievement when we are always talking about trade offs.

Again, Mr Fitzmaurice THANK YOU.

Size does matter!

I did some pretty extensive comparison of the T36 vs. the T60 when it fist came out. I wanted to know what the fuss was about, and if it would be worth even considering making the switch. After poring over the response charts for a few hours I came to the conclusion that if the T36s are built wide (like I did), and you run a block of four at a time for most uses (like I do), then it's pretty much a toss up. The T60 is easier to move around, but it has a smaller horn mouth. The T36 can also be V-plated easily. And as far as pack space, they're just about even.