Interested Newbie

[slapaddict]

Hello bfm world, I've been through many threads and each one excites me more. I havent purchase any plans yet because im weighing the options. I like the T48 and Jack 210's. My original plan was to purchase these items
(1) 1x American audio pxw18p subwoofer $700
(2) 2x Mackie/Tapco thumps $600

After weeks of surfing the web for dj equipment, in somehow landed on this site and have been so intrigued by it all. I have a million questions but to get the determining factor out of the way first here are just a few.
How much does is the cost to build a 1x T48 and 1x jack 210 As opposed to what i was going to purchase?
I have no gear at all so im a total newbie . Take it easy, im not a virgin to sound....LOL
Thanks in advance for your responses.

[Tom Smit]

Hi! Welcome to the forum!

Do you have any woodworking tools? If not, well, then your cost just jumped up.

The sales page says it cost $350 to build a T48 with a 3015LF. It depends on if you can get that driver at a reasonable price. Try http://www.speakerhardware.com/categories.php?cat=21 for very good pricing. He is a builder on this site and a good guy.
The sales page for the J110 says it costs about $300. I suggest going the 2xJ110 rather than a 1xJ210 for easier schlep-age.

Why did you pick the Jack? Are you sometimes not going to use subs? If you use subs all the time, then an OT12 would be better.

[SeisTres]

yeah, you might want to post what your goal is since i really see no reason why building a single jack210 along with t48's would be a good idea.

[Bill Fitzmaurice]

yeah, you might want to post what your goal is since i really see no reason why building a single jack210 along with t48's would be a good idea.

+1, it makes no sense at all. Two OTop 12s and two T39s, much better. As for American audio pxw18p subwoofer, a total POS, as is everything of that brand. Mackie/Tapco thumps are better, but still mediocre. Our gear is more comparable to the JBL VRX line, those are the prices you'd use as a comparison.

[wounded horse]

Seems to me Mr Slapaddict, you could buy the ply, drivers, hardware, filters and cab finish AND the tools for 2 XT39 and 2 X otop 12 and still finish better that $1900. When you're costing it all up you don't have to use the Neo drivers if another 10-15lbs a cab is not critical. Then you have the tools for the next build. Most forum users on here don't see them as cheaper cabs though; just better and lighter.

Make your cab choice, build 'em slow, be safe. Oh and that AA powered 18 is 171lbs.

[slapaddict]

Thankyou all for such quick replies and warm welcomes.

This my first time ever on any forum....go figure,guess i love sound.
@Tom Smit...I do have some woodworking tools and little woodworking skills. I own a miter saw, skill/round saw,good ol faithful dremel, drill,squares,brad nailer and 20 gal compressor,and levels. I have put together a sump tank for my fish tank with great success so i hope wood isnt much more difficult than glass.
@SeisTres....I wanted to start with 1 of each just to try out and from what i read, it gets addictive fast to build more. To start i want to cover about 3000 - 4000 square ft indoors and out. My goal is i guess recorded music since i've never done live band although i play drums.
Thanx Bill and good point, quality is always better. Thats what im looking for.
@wounded horse...I did see the spl charts of the t39 and very comparable to t48 but i like 5hz low extention,but the 40 to 60hz of a 30" t39 is a clearly more sensitive. What would a 30-36" t48 be in spl compared to 30" T39? Im sure the depth is still 24" because 36" x 36" x 48 would be impossible to move through single doors....WOW! I'm so stuck in the middle.

[SeisTres]

If you indeed need that extra extension and have no problem with really big cabs, then the t48 pretty much has you covered. However, if going solo like myself, I know that those extra 5hz are a royal pain to live with. And you'll be reminded of that every time you move them around. Hell, I didn't even like moving my slim t39's

as for the jacks, they're nice cabs if you're going to be using them once in a while for full range. If they're just going to be tops, there's no point to building jacks. As for the 210 option, I still don't see how that would come into play. I mean, i can see two jack 10's which can be run for small events and used as tops with a single t48 but a 210 cab I just don't see any use for it (well, unless you're a bass player, i guess).

[Tom Smit]

Thankyou all for such quick replies and warm welcomes.

This my first time ever on any forum....go figure,guess i love sound.
@Tom Smit...I do have some woodworking tools and little woodworking skills. I own a miter saw, skill/round saw,good ol faithful dremel, drill,squares,brad nailer and 20 gal compressor,and levels. I have put together a sump tank for my fish tank with great success so i hope wood isnt much more difficult than glass.

All you need yet is some longer clamps....and maybe some W-cawls.

@SeisTres....I wanted to start with 1 of each just to try out and from what i read, it gets addictive fast to build more. To start i want to cover about 3000 - 4000 square ft indoors and out. My goal is i guess recorded music since i've never done live band although i play drums.

Sounds like four OT12 and four T39 or T48.

What type of music will typically be played ninety percent of the time? It might be that the T39 will be most suitable.

If cab building really intrigues you, then you should get the CD of plans.

[slapaddict]

Thnx all. The type of music i play are Jazz, Reggae, r&b, rap, House, techno...pretty much recorded music new and old. The reason for a t48 is i would like room for expandability if need be in the future. The way i see it is.....You can turn a big system down but you can't turn a small system up. As for tops or fill i don't know which would go better. The t39 sounds like a winner but is there room for expansion in the future? What tops would you all recommend for t39 or t48's. I plan on building two of whichever is best. I will be going mobile but not alone. I have friend, family and even the wife to assist with equipment. I don't want the best, I want the baddest Really though; I just want good clean sound and be able to rock the house. Thankyou for all the advice and support thus far. Love this forum

[Mikey]

Using four or more Titans, you can lower the HP by 5hz, so the T39s go to 40hz and the T48s go to 35hz. I doubt that you need the extra 5hz afforded by T48s, given the type of music that you intend to play. You might want to make a 39" x 19.5" x 30" cardboard mockup so that you can actually "experience" the size. Once you do, I doubt that you'll have the itch to go bigger for only a 5hz gain.

If you intend to start by building eight cabs, and then expand more from there, you should seriously consider buying a table saw. It'll make the cutting process much faster and easier.

[bzb]

I'd highly suggest going with T39s at 24" (mine are actually 24 1/2") due to portability, weight, and wood usage. If you cut the widths as 23 5/8", you'll get the most bang for your buck and least amount of waste from your plywood. Going to 30" just makes them a bit of a pain to move if you're doing it solo. 24" is manageable, and with Arauco weigh in around 70 pounds.

[subharmonic]

I don't want the best, I want the baddest

Join me then. Tuba 60

[slapaddict]

Well i did as suggested and made a cardboard mockup and man the T48 is huge yet sexy. The T39 at 30" is no baby either i must say...i can just see the problems of being really careful going through doorways or goodbye knuckles. I see the point of 24" now. Btw; is this inner or outer measurements? Just wondering. T60 is wayyyyyy to big Maybe build that where its gonna stay or nearby.. . A table saw would be a good investment being i like to build car audio also. Have gotten by with what i've got so far though it would cut time down on builds. As suggested in another post somewhere on the forum, I tested some of my music through Headphones and EQ; When pulling down the 30hz bar i could hear a difference in sound production. With all the great help and suggestions here i must say i have settled my mind on the titan48's in 24". Which tops would compliment these the best. Wish i could hear either titan in person because i know it makes a world of difference. Thanx for all the advice. Keep on building

[Tom Smit]

Go DR250. Clean. capable of loud, and efficient. Also, you can set your cross-over a bit lower than the DR200 which will help your style.

There. You've been told. Now do it! haha.

[slapaddict]

Thanx tom smit for the advice, I'll look into those then. Would i need 1 for each sub or two per sub?