Mixer system for in ear

[Harley]

Suggestions would be welcome as how I can get mixable, vol adjusted sound to 5 people in ears.

Our band's desk is a Yorkville 1212 Audiopro. Our band is drums, guitar, keys, singer and bass.

The singer and the drummer are lead singers with keys and guitars as BVs. We play classics hits - 50s, 60s, 70s, 80s mostly with some of the later songs by Pink, Gaga etc added to please younger ones.

Because of stage sound level problems which cannot be resolved without changing personnel, I'm looking at in ear monitoring for us all.

The desk has only 2 monitor outputs with a third possibility to use effx 2 send to monitors, currently sending mon 1 to the drummer's in ears, mon 2 to the singer and guitarists wedges ( in parallel ) and effx 2 send to the keys monitor wedge.

The mix for the monitors has to be done at the desk and the volume for the wedges is done by separate power amp.

In trying to achieve in ears for all, I see there'll be problems trying to share common mixes from the three output for 5 people.

I can modify the back of the desk to take signals form each source to go to another 'system'

So what can I do to get a separate mix in ear to satisfy everyone, PLUS give them at least a level adjustment each that they can easily tweak on stage?

I know of the AVIOM system which I have used in quite a few churches, but for out band, this is unaffordable.

[Bruce Weldy]

2- monitor mixes
1 - efx2 send (can't use it for efx - but it works just like any other send)
1 - left submix out - use the pan control to give more to one out or the other
1 - right submix out - of course it will take that away from the other submix

That's 5 possibles.....

Best bet is to use the first three (monitors and efx) and the other two members will have to pick one of those three mixes to live with.

If you had a 4 submix board that'd be a lot easier.

[mattaudio]

I've had a PreSonus StudioLive 1642 for about two years, and I love it. It can easily do all the mixes you need.

Best part is they keep improving the product with firmware and connectivity to a network. Show up at a bar with no sound guy? Hand them L+R, pull out your ipad, and mix the show wirelessly.

Soon they'll have an app for iphone and hopefully android so each person can mix their ears from their phone. Win!

[BrentEvans]

SAC.

Something a little simpler... Jamhub. If you can find a way to get it down there..

http://www.guitarcenter.com/JamHub-BedR ... 1466362.gc

[Harley]

SAC.

Something a little simpler... Jamhub. If you can find a way to get it down there..

http://www.guitarcenter.com/JamHub-BedR ... 1466362.gc

How would we get that interfacing with our desk?

[BrentEvans]

xlr splitters, possibly. you can use an aux sends to feed a basic mix, then everyone can add “more me“ if desired, for instance.

[Harley]

xlr splitters, possibly. you can use an aux sends to feed a basic mix, then everyone can add “more me“ if desired, for instance.

How do we get mixable levels for all inputs off that that we can use on the machine.

Theoretically there may need to be 7-8 signals to mix ( 3 of the other singers ) guitar, keys ( x2 ) and bass. If we use the aux send mix, the relative levels of each channel would be fixed from the desk wouldn't it? I am betting each person will want their own relative level mix to be able to adjust ( like you can on the Aviom )

[Greg Plouvier]

Well I don't know how much you're looking to spend but my suggestion is get a different mixer. You could still use the 1212 power section until you could afford a power amp. The Soundcraft GB2R-12.2 would suit the bill. Are you looking to use wireless in ear?

[BrentEvans]

The Jamhub has mic preamps, so a XLR splitters will give you mixable levels in theory. I would probably lift pin 1 on the jamhub side to prevent ground loops and phantom power from passing through. You could also use an 8 channel transformer iso splitter.

Using the aux send method on the smaller version, you would send a submix of the instruments plus all four singers, then use your other two auxes on the board for everyone else. They also have a 7 input version if you need more individual inputs.

[Harley]

Are you looking to use wireless in ear?

Eventually that would be the ticket.

I would probably lift pin 1 on the jamhub.....Using the aux send method on the smaller version, you would send a submix of the instruments plus all four singers, then use your other two auxes on the board for everyone else. They also have a 7 input version if you need more individual inputs.

That could work and its affordable.

How do you go about 'lifting pin 1?

[BrentEvans]

Are you looking to use wireless in ear?

Eventually that would be the ticket.

I would probably lift pin 1 on the jamhub.....Using the aux send method on the smaller version, you would send a submix of the instruments plus all four singers, then use your other two auxes on the board for everyone else. They also have a 7 input version if you need more individual inputs.

That could work and its affordable.

How do you go about 'lifting pin 1?

Open up the XLR plug on the jamhub end and snip it.

All you're doing here is using a splitter to connect this up the same way you would a monitor console. You can buy splitter snakes, splitter boxes, splitter cables, all kinds of stuff to do this. A splitter snake might not be a bad idea if you're ever going to have FOH in a normal mix position (not on stage).