last panel - question
last panel - question
Reading through myn's popular THT thread I've noticed that he didn't apply (pre-drill) the last panel like in the plans. As a somewhat newbie woodworker I wonder if this would be a better option as pre-drilling would assume no warping and perfect squaring of all other joined panels, seems like there might be little room for error in this case.
Anyone try different methods? Should I quit second guessing the plans? Sorry, applying that last panel seems fairly critical and just trying to cover all bases.
Also, what size screws would be good for 15/32" arauco? #6 or #8 or...?
Anyone try different methods? Should I quit second guessing the plans? Sorry, applying that last panel seems fairly critical and just trying to cover all bases.
Also, what size screws would be good for 15/32" arauco? #6 or #8 or...?
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Re: last panel - question
I don't know what myn did, can't remember. but if you are a newbie at woodworking I would defiantly stick to the plans.viffer wrote:Reading through myn's popular THT thread I've noticed that he didn't apply (pre-drill) the last panel like in the plans. As a somewhat newbie woodworker I wonder if this would be a better option as pre-drilling would assume no warping and perfect squaring of all other joined panels, seems like there might be little room for error in this case.
Anyone try different methods? Should I quit second guessing the plans? Sorry, applying that last panel seems fairly critical and just trying to cover all bases.
Also, what size screws would be good for 15/32" arauco? #6 or #8 or...?
If you have a brad nailer that would be good also on putting on the last pieces. Are you referring to the side panel or an interior panel?
1.25" screws for the 1/2" ply, and pre drill your holes especially near the edges. IMO
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Re: last panel - question
Thanks Scott. I was referring to the last side panel.
Myn (and a few others) traced and measured the interior panels in order to line up the last panel (as opposed to predrilling it with the first side panel). This method seems to account for slight warping better than predrilling and hoping it lines up.
I suppose I will try predrilling, as I can always bondo a misaligned hole. Just wanted to get others input.
Myn (and a few others) traced and measured the interior panels in order to line up the last panel (as opposed to predrilling it with the first side panel). This method seems to account for slight warping better than predrilling and hoping it lines up.
I suppose I will try predrilling, as I can always bondo a misaligned hole. Just wanted to get others input.
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One method is to use carpenters chalk (for chalk lines) on all the panels, place the side (a two person job) and sit on the side to get a good transfer of the chalk to the side. Then you can see where the joints lie to drill pilots. One screw per panel is adequate to pull the side tight to the assembly.viffer wrote:Thanks Scott. I was referring to the last side panel.
Myn (and a few others) traced and measured the interior panels in order to line up the last panel (as opposed to predrilling it with the first side panel). This method seems to account for slight warping better than predrilling and hoping it lines up.
I suppose I will try predrilling, as I can always bondo a misaligned hole. Just wanted to get others input.
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a studfinder might work too...
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Good idea but my studfinder is the cheap ones that searches for metal.
The chalk method sounds like an doable option. Thanks.
The chalk method sounds like an doable option. Thanks.
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They work great. The War Ofiice used to have one of those and she ended up with menetwerks wrote:a studfinder might work too...

Re: last panel - question
Guess it was wonky that day!Harley wrote:They work great. The War Ofiice used to have one of those and she ended up with menetwerks wrote:a studfinder might work too...



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He said 'stud', not 'dud'.Harley wrote:They work great. The War Ofiice used to have one of those and she ended up with menetwerks wrote:a studfinder might work too...

Re: last panel - question
Bill Fitzmaurice wrote:One method is to use carpenters chalk (for chalk lines) on all the panels, place the side (a two person job) and sit on the side to get a good transfer of the chalk to the side. Then you can see where the joints lie to drill pilots. One screw per panel is adequate to pull the side tight to the assembly.viffer wrote:Thanks Scott. I was referring to the last side panel.
Myn (and a few others) traced and measured the interior panels in order to line up the last panel (as opposed to predrilling it with the first side panel). This method seems to account for slight warping better than predrilling and hoping it lines up.
I suppose I will try predrilling, as I can always bondo a misaligned hole. Just wanted to get others input.
Bill, just to make sure, are you saying that for the final side panel glue up, that only 10 screws are needed to hold the side while the PL sets?
I was gonna use screws every 6-8 inches as I did for each panel, but 10 screws would be much faster.
If that is what you are saying then why are screws needed every 6-8" when installing panels, or why so few for the side?
Just curious.