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A testament to the DR200s

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I got a call last Tuesday to come do a "small corporate gig" on Saturday. I was told it would be very simple, a couple of mics for MC/Speaker, and play back some tracks for the Zumba competition.

I set up Friday night, with SAC and 4 DR200s, and my 15" subs. DRs were 2 stacks of 2 on tripods, left and right of the stage, which was set up between two buildings. There were about 100 seats under a tent, so it was a nice little setting. After getting everything running and a track playing, sound was great, well over 105db at the back. We tarped it all, and went home (left a guy to stage-sit, of course).

Got there the next day, untarped, and on come the Zumba dancers/exercisers at 10AM, everything went great, ended about 11:15. They asked the MC to do some announcments until the next event on that stage at 1:30. I put on the music, set up his wireless mic to duck the music when he spoke (easy peasy in SAC, and impressed the heck out of the MC), and went off to grab a bite to eat. When I got back, the MC ran up to me and said that the head honcho wanted sound coverage in the vendor area. My instructions were to make this person happy... so I grabbed the left DR stack, took it outside the courtyard, put it up as high as the tripod would go, pulled a speaker cable out there (glad I made them 125'), and cranked up (limiters already in place, of course). Took me about 5 minutes, and that impressed the heck out of them too. :mrgreen:

Things carried on, and I walked around a bit.. coverage was decent enough and volume was sufficient for announcements in the vendor area, and since I was already "going the extra mile" already I proceeded to eat my (now not so warm) lunch. About the time I got done, the rain sprinkles started. On went the tarps... but the event continued, and coverage and volume still were quite good. Couldn't really tell a difference, honestly.

The "Ask The Expert" symposium started on the main stage, with only the tarped right stack for coverage. Of course it was plenty... and I shifted the pan in SAC to throw more sound outside than inside, so it was broadcast to the whole event. It must have worked... because attendance picked up about 5 minutes in.

All through the day, they were giving away prizes and announcing the names over the PA. This led to my little moment of triumph. A gentleman walked up to me and said "I was almost down at the GEM and heard my name called for a prize. Is this where they were announcing from?" I smiled.. and pointed him to the prize people.

The GEM is a dollar theatre... almost a quarter mile away. All with 2 8 inch drivers, a gob of Piezos, and 300 watts per (extremely well designed) cabinet. :mrgreen: :hyper: :fruit: :mrgreen:

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:clap: That's pretty amazing. No doubt a testament to the effort Bill has put into these cabinets.

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now THAT is the kind of cabs i want. i need to get building.
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awesome testimony of real world performance. Your setup with the SAC and DR200s has got to look ridiculously light on gear to the typical client/guest...
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Drey Chennells wrote:awesome testimony of real world performance. Your setup with the SAC and DR200s has got to look ridiculously light on gear to the typical client/guest...
The guy I subbed for raised an eyebrow... but he'd seen the system before. One of his other guys came down and immediately noticed the absence of a "mixer" and "sound central" until I pointed at my laptop. My entire rolling rack was completely hidden under the stage itself, so it was nearly invisible.

The system that was going to do this event was much larger... and it wouldn't have been able to be moved outside, as part of it supports the stage top. :roll:
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BrentEvans wrote:
The guy I subbed for raised an eyebrow...
he was there? why didnt he do the gig? sounds like you have it next time
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tdogg wrote:
BrentEvans wrote:
The guy I subbed for raised an eyebrow...
he was there? why didnt he do the gig? sounds like you have it next time
Long story. He has two large rigs, and recently sold his "C" rig. The truck that the A rig lives on was not in the shape to be driven a long distance, so he had to take the B rig to the A gig, when the B system was supposed to be split up between the gig I did and one other. The A rig doesn't split up easily... so I ended up doing one of the gigs that would have originally taken the B rig, and he did the other one with about half of the A rig.

Does that make any sense?
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BrentEvans wrote:
tdogg wrote:
BrentEvans wrote:
The guy I subbed for raised an eyebrow...
he was there? why didnt he do the gig? sounds like you have it next time
Long story. He has two large rigs, and recently sold his "C" rig. The truck that the A rig lives on was not in the shape to be driven a long distance, so he had to take the B rig to the A gig, when the B system was supposed to be split up between the gig I did and one other. The A rig doesn't split up easily... so I ended up doing one of the gigs that would have originally taken the B rig, and he did the other one with about half of the A rig.

Does that make any sense?
lol yeah i think so
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BrentEvans wrote:Long story. He has two large rigs, and recently sold his "C" rig. The truck that the A rig lives on was not in the shape to be driven a long distance, so he had to take the B rig to the A gig, when the B system was supposed to be split up between the gig I did and one other. The A rig doesn't split up easily... so I ended up doing one of the gigs that would have originally taken the B rig, and he did the other one with about half of the A rig.
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Coincidentally I had a conversation ( Sat night ) about A/B/C rigs and gigs - and why an operator might have/need diversity and multiplicity of systems.

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Doug Hart wrote:Who's on first?
Something like that.
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Sydney wrote:Coincidentally I had a conversation ( Sat night ) about A/B/C rigs and gigs - and why an operator might have/need diversity and multiplicity of systems.

Syd
Indeed. For instance, while a DR280 / 36" T48 rig appears to provide the biggest bang for the buck, there's no room to scale down from that point. And sometimes, that versatility is what's required from the client or situation as noted.

This information is golden because people jumping into this field cold-turkey need to quantify just how powerful these cabs really are. For folks with no experience, I see (only from active posts on the forum) a propensity towards larger, fewer cabs; when in actuality, all the data point to groupings (if even required) of smaller cabs, as Bill has posted in the stickies.
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Radian wrote:
Sydney wrote:Coincidentally I had a conversation ( Sat night ) about A/B/C rigs and gigs - and why an operator might have/need diversity and multiplicity of systems.

Syd
Indeed. For instance, while a DR280 / 36" T48 rig appears to provide the biggest bang for the buck, there's no room to scale down from that point. And sometimes, that versatility is what's required from the client or situation as noted.

This information is golden because people jumping into this field cold-turkey need to quantify just how powerful these cabs really are. For folks with no experience, I see (only from active posts on the forum) a propensity towards larger, fewer cabs; when in actuality, all the data point to groupings (if even required) of smaller cabs, as Bill has posted in the stickies.
amen to all that.
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BrentEvans wrote: He has two large rigs, and recently sold his "C" rig. The truck that the A rig lives on was not in the shape to be driven a long distance, so he had to take the B rig to the A gig, when the B system was supposed to be split up between the gig I did and one other. The A rig doesn't split up easily... so I ended up doing one of the gigs that would have originally taken the B rig, and he did the other one with about half of the A rig. Does that make any sense?
A+B=A+B-C

T/A=0

B@A=B/2

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A/2 = 1/2

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Radian wrote: I see (only from active posts on the forum) a propensity towards larger, fewer cabs; when in actuality, all the data point to groupings (if even required) of smaller cabs
The band I saw outdoor Sat night ( @ Marietta OH SternWheeler Festival ) was extremely good musically, but their sound implementation was bad.
4 mains ( Direct Radiators w horns ) 2 subs ( B/R ea. w 2 - 18's ).
2 of the mains sat on the stage (side by side) slightly above ear line and 2 sat about 2' lower below the stage (side by side ) about 25' away.
The subs were about 13' apart.
I don't know if it was the house system or the band's gear ( the mix console was large and not inexpensive ), but a few simply changes would have at least got the most out of what it was.

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