Omni 12 2-10?...yup.

[Rug]

For future reference you can use the same trick out of the box with just the drivers placed one on top of the other face on.

Thanks. I was wondering about that. I think I'll just hook it up to another cab and and amp and play my ipod through it for awhile. A little broken in is better than none, right? And whatever doesn't get done today will definitely get finished tomorrow with the band.

[Sydney]

A little broken in is better than none, right?

Yes. The worse that has happened is perhaps an initial disappointment, until you get the initial loosening out of the way ( a lot after 8 hours, 90%+ after 24 hours * for most woofers I've measured ).
I suppose, like wine it has to mellow

[Rug]

Well, I've got the tunes cranked right now and it's sounding pretty good. (B.B. King at the moment but it's on shuffle so who knows what'll pop up next)



edit add-Hah! Deep Purple came up next! Quite a difference!

[DJ Big Ronn]

Well, I've got the tunes cranked right now and it's sounding pretty good. (B.B. King at the moment but it's on shuffle so who knows what'll pop up next)



edit add-Hah! Deep Purple came up next! Quite a difference!

If you have it, throw on "Carry on my wayward son". I love the way this tune sounds through my T-48's ! That would be Kansas by the way.

[Sydney]

Reminds me of parties I've been at... "Play this"
I was going to suggest you find a favorite well recorded instrumental or solo bit featuring a bass performance you are very familar with. And repeat it after a while to listen for any changes in tonality or tightness.
Got anything with Tony Levin, or Victor Wooten, or Stu Hamm, or Chris Squire, etc,etc,etc..?

[DJ Big Ronn]

Reminds me of parties I've been at... "Play this"
I was going to suggest you find a favorite well recorded instrumental or solo bit featuring a bass performance you are very familar with. And repeat it after a while to listen for any changes in tonality or tightness.
Got anything with Tony Levin, or Victor Wooten, or Stu Hamm, or Chris Squire, etc,etc,etc..?

It was only a suggestion. As a DJ myself I am very familiar with the "play this" syndrome, as it is what I get paid to do. When Eqing my system, i've tried that method and it works on upper frequencies, but I've had no luck on subs. I suspect If I played the two side by side, one broken in, one not, then I'm sure I could notice a diff.. Over the 24 to 48 hours that is required to break in a driver, my brain wont remember what it sounded like before, only that it sounds better.

[bgavin]

We get a lot of these when the band plays. Just ask 'em to write it down on the back of a twenty...

I first got introduced to Pay To Play when playing for the large Russian community here. Evidently it is standard procedure in the Old County to tip the band to play your tune. It is expected. We had an old boy, well into his pints, kept tossing 20s at us. It was strange at first.

[Rug]

So how about bumping an OLD thread!

Still rocking the O12 210 and it still sounds great. We're looking at replacing/upgrading our PA and I'm trying to remember how this thing works, as far as ohms and such. I'm no expert on these things so thought I'd ask the pros around here.

Can someone give me a simple ohms explanation? Single in, passive crossover, 2 outs to the mains. Someone probably explained this to me back when I was building the sub but that was a long time ago. Appreciate any help.

[DJPhatman]

So how about bumping an OLD thread!

Still rocking the O12 210 and it still sounds great. We're looking at replacing/upgrading our PA and I'm trying to remember how this thing works, as far as ohms and such. I'm no expert on these things so thought I'd ask the pros around here.

Can someone give me a simple ohms explanation? Single in, passive crossover, 2 outs to the mains. Someone probably explained this to me back when I was building the sub but that was a long time ago. Appreciate any help.

Talk about a zombie thread revival! 6 years old? You should have just started a new thread, and referenced this one. Oh, well! Nice to take the zombie out for a stroll once in a while.



For the Omni that you have, if your 10s are wired in parallel, consider each cabinet as a 4 Ohm load. Only the horn loaded subs add impedance, as the air mass contained withing the horn path adds to it.

[Rug]

Thanks, DJPhatman. Yeah, I thought about a new thread but thought it'd be more fun to bump this old one. And this way you got to post your cool zombie thing.

"For the Omni that you have, if your 10s are wired in parallel, consider each cabinet as a 4 Ohm load. Only the horn loaded subs add impedance, as the air mass contained withing the horn path adds to it."

So that means the sub is 4 ohms? How do my 2 8-ohm mains figure in? And it doesn't matter that I'm only running a single line into the sub? I'm still getting full power? I'm hoping I can just buy a single amp that can handle 2-ohm loads and run the sub and 2 mains off one channel and 4 monitors off the other. Or do I need 2 4-ohm amps, one for mains and one for monitors?

I'm better at following directions on this stuff than I am at fully understanding it. Appreciate the help.

[DJPhatman]

While you built your Omni 12 2x10 as a sub, it is just an Onmi 12 with no tweeter and mid-range. Treat it as you would any 4 Ohm cabinet. I will advise you not to try to cross over to the O12 passively (after the amp), but if you must, you should build the crossover in a small container that will split the speaker cable runs. In, from the amp, to the low out going to the O12 sub, and the highs out going to your tops of choice. This adds convenience during hook-up, and you wouldn't have to open the O12 sub to install it, then install a separate out going to the tops.

FTR, this is not a very good way to deploy the system. You should be able to run 1 O12 sub on one channel of the amp, and your tops on the other. Actively (before the amp) cross over the signals, allowing you on-the-fly control over the type, slope and frequency of the cross over which may change at each set-up.

I'm sorry, but I'm not going to re-read a 6 year old thread to figure out what you are trying to do, so I'm going to guess. You want to run your current tops, in stereo, with your 1, or more, Omni 12 2x10 sub, right?