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Re: David - Just For Fun

Posted: Tue Feb 15, 2011 3:38 pm
by netwerks
Lookin' good Steve.

Re: David - Just For Fun

Posted: Tue Feb 15, 2011 6:04 pm
by chrapladm
Are the Davids designed to be a Left and Right?

Meaning the exit horn?

Or do they both go to the left. Left as in the pic you provided.

Re: David - Just For Fun

Posted: Tue Feb 15, 2011 6:50 pm
by cliffhanger
This looks great. I however prefer the "naked look" without the grille it looks real sharp either way. :clap:
chrapladm wrote:Are the Davids designed to be a Left and Right?

Meaning the exit horn?

Or do they both go to the left. Left as in the pic you provided.
I do believe the idea is to use them in a pair to replace a set of home speakers which I would like to do at some point in time. The horn shoots out both sides as seen here.
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Re: David - Just For Fun

Posted: Tue Feb 15, 2011 9:24 pm
by Steve Regier
I had to try David in the corner of my living room.I'm tired of listening in the subwoofer "no-zone". I took a break from work and moved the piano and put David in the corner aimed at room center back wall. Connected my iPod to the Kenwood M2 and fired up the tunes. At 50 watts the sound was booming yet crisp and clean. At 120 Watts it was starting to feel like a rock concert and the house was shaking to the foundation yet still crisp and clean with no loss in detail. That's only one cab. Now I must build it's mate! I'll be shaking the neighbors house too....! :chainsaw:
A couple of notes. I like big bass...not even EQ so the top section seemed a bit over the sub. The sub needed more power to get going. David sounds good flat but for my taste I added a bit of thunder in the EQ. I imaginge the bottom end wil get more powerfull with 2 corner loaded cabs.
The detail in the sound was so close to the SLA that these will be seing duty as stereo and HT cabs in my living room.
I will be rearranging the living room for 2 Davids in the corner with TV in the middle and SLA center channel with the TV.
Awesome,
Thanks, Bill
:clap: :hyper: :fruit:

Re: David - Just For Fun

Posted: Tue Feb 15, 2011 10:02 pm
by chaywood
baronvonsteve wrote:Connected my iPod to the Kenwood M2 and fired up the tunes.
I find that many MP3s, especially played off an iPod, have a lot of loss in the bass.... Usually much better from an original CD.

CH

Re: David - Just For Fun

Posted: Tue Feb 15, 2011 10:16 pm
by SeisTres
chaywood wrote:
baronvonsteve wrote:Connected my iPod to the Kenwood M2 and fired up the tunes.
I find that many MP3s, especially played off an iPod, have a lot of loss in the bass.... Usually much better from an original CD.

CH
might be the something going on with the player or the encoding since the highs are the ones that suffer. I keep all my stuff in lossless but for portable palyers, i encode at 128. They should sound identical except for other than the highs.

Re: David - Just For Fun

Posted: Tue Feb 15, 2011 10:50 pm
by chrapladm
Good to hear!!!

That is what I was wanting to hear all along.

Davids for the front SLAS for the rears.

Does the treble fall off when your out of the direct area like the SLAs?

I doubt it would, being that it isn't a SLA but I would rather ask.

Re: David - Just For Fun

Posted: Tue Feb 15, 2011 11:14 pm
by chaywood
SeisTres wrote:
chaywood wrote:
baronvonsteve wrote:Connected my iPod to the Kenwood M2 and fired up the tunes.
I find that many MP3s, especially played off an iPod, have a lot of loss in the bass.... Usually much better from an original CD.

CH
might be the something going on with the player or the encoding since the highs are the ones that suffer. I keep all my stuff in lossless but for portable palyers, i encode at 128. They should sound identical except for other than the highs.
From Wikipedia...
Audio performance:
The third-generation iPod had a weak bass response, as shown in audio tests.

Re: David - Just For Fun

Posted: Tue Feb 15, 2011 11:25 pm
by Steve Regier
I tried several sources with the same results.
Thanks, guys, but the MTM section is a bit hot for my taste but no complaints.
8)

Re: David - Just For Fun

Posted: Tue Feb 15, 2011 11:47 pm
by chaywood
baronvonsteve wrote:I tried several sources with the same results.
Thanks, guys, but the MTM section is a bit hot for my taste but no complaints.
8)

Hello Steve,

Have you metered ? Is is flat from 35hz to 17k (+-3) like Goliath ?

CH

Re: David - Just For Fun

Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2011 12:13 am
by ewetho
chrapladm wrote:
Does the treble fall off when your out of the direct area like the SLAs?

I doubt it would, being that it isn't a SLA but I would rather ask.
Explain? My SLAs that Steve and I built are very wide full dispersion and fairly minor horizontal falloff, but fairly narrow vertically. The David is fairly wide both ways now with our updated crossovers. However it does have a touch of noding vertically more of a problem when you pass through it that sit in the week spot. Very minor issue now but is noticeable in critical listening. If you just happen to be sitting in the bad spot you probably would never notice.

Re: David - Just For Fun

Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2011 12:15 am
by ewetho
chaywood wrote:
baronvonsteve wrote:I tried several sources with the same results.
Thanks, guys, but the MTM section is a bit hot for my taste but no complaints.
8)

Hello Steve,

Have you metered ? Is is flat from 35hz to 17k (+-3) like Goliath ?

CH
Using test tones off a test CD it was more like +-5 for most off the range in the garage/shop with only the bass section being a bit week like ~-10+

Re: David - Just For Fun

Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2011 12:18 am
by ewetho
chaywood wrote: From Wikipedia...
Audio performance:
The third-generation iPod had a weak bass response, as shown in audio tests.

Good thing he is post 3rd Gen. Most of his iTunes are the AAC Lossless versions you buy.

Re: David - Just For Fun

Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2011 1:51 am
by Steve Regier
chaywood wrote:
baronvonsteve wrote:I tried several sources with the same results.
Thanks, guys, but the MTM section is a bit hot for my taste but no complaints.
8)

Hello Steve,

Have you metered ? Is is flat from 35hz to 17k (+-3) like Goliath ?

CH
Have not metered yet. My ears tell me that the MTM section is even to it's self but is hotter than the sub. Remember, we changed Bill's crossovers to eliminate nodes. this gave us a hotter MTM. The system can be brought back in balance with some EQ. It seems that the sub can still take more power when the MTM is at it's limit. Still need to work that out but it's minor IMO

Re: David - Just For Fun

Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2011 2:54 am
by chrapladm
I was just talking about vertical dispersion so thanks for clearing my question up.

Seems to be a real performer.