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Re: Jack 10 lite build x 2
Posted: Sat Sep 15, 2012 5:05 pm
by kekani
This is what I used for the cabs
http://bondo.com/products/bondo-autobod ... t-312.html
And it's held up well. I prefer the "pro" automotive stuff like Rage
http://www.evercoat.com/productcategory.aspx?cat=2 which I'd buy if I were building a LOT of cabs. Much easier to work with from mixing through to sanding.
Harley, mixing is one of those things that no matter how much you read the instructions, the more you mix and spread, the better you get.
Of course, in automotive applications, gotta use glazing putty after the filler, but. not needed under Duratex.
Re: Jack 10 lite build x 2
Posted: Sat Sep 15, 2012 5:10 pm
by Grant Bunter
It's not rocket science guys.
If the hardener is red and your mix ends up pink, all good. If you missed putting in an umpteenth of hardener, it will just set a tad slower. If you put in an umpteenth to much, it sets faster.
The fact you can put in a bit less and it sets slower can be used to advantage if you have ample time to let it set before sanding.
Similarly, if you need it to go off quickly so you can sand immediately to finish a cab, put in extra hardener...
Re: Jack 10 lite build x 2
Posted: Sat Sep 15, 2012 5:26 pm
by eac
Grant Bunter wrote:It's not rocket science guys.
If the hardener is red and your mix ends up pink, all good. If you missed putting in an umpteenth of hardener, it will just set a tad slower. If you put in an umpteenth to much, it sets faster.
The fact you can put in a bit less and it sets slower can be used to advantage if you have ample time to let it set before sanding.
Similarly, if you need it to go off quickly so you can sand immediately to finish a cab, put in extra hardener...
No rocket science, just a PITA.... Was hoping to get away from the mixing step, since I have to do it a lot with West Systems epoxy with the RC stuff. Just hate the extra step. Oh well, onward to mixing............
Re: Jack 10 lite build x 2
Posted: Sat Sep 15, 2012 6:40 pm
by Harley
kekani wrote:... the more you mix and spread, the better you get.....
In the last four years, I've gone through almost two one gallon tins fo the stuff and I still get one batch perfect, one batch not so and at odd times, I really cock it up!
You'd think I'd get every batch perfect by now. The problem is that each build takes a different amount of bondy and it still perplexes me trying to work out the exact 50:1 ratio. I know it's not vitally essential, but still, I like to get things just tickity-boo most times.
Which one would you get - Ultra, Extreme, Gold or Vanilla ?
Re: Jack 10 lite build x 2
Posted: Sat Sep 15, 2012 7:47 pm
by kekani
Harley wrote:kekani wrote:... the more you mix and spread, the better you get.....
In the last four years, I've gone through almost two one gallon tins fo the stuff and I still get one batch perfect, one batch not so and at odd times, I really cock it up!
You'd think I'd get every batch perfect by now. The problem is that each build takes a different amount of bondy and it still perplexes me trying to work out the exact 50:1 ratio. I know it's not vitally essential, but still, I like to get things just tickity-boo most times.
Which one would you get - Ultra, Extreme, Gold or Vanilla ?
Honestly, I molded my Harley FXLR frame with vanilla, and I'd do the same again. Vanilla will run circles around Bondo strawberry, imho. Didn't even use a grater, straight to sandpaper.
Re: Jack 10 lite build x 2
Posted: Sat Sep 15, 2012 10:17 pm
by Harley
kekani wrote:Honestly, I molded my Harley FXLR frame with vanilla, and I'd do the same again. Vanilla will run circles around Bondo strawberry, imho. Didn't even use a grater, straight to sandpaper.
Cool, thanks. I'll see if I can get it here.
Re: Jack 10 lite build x 2
Posted: Sun Sep 16, 2012 2:27 am
by Grant Bunter
Fair enough Don...
Harley,
Until you find a replacement, if you're using the same stuff all the time, next time you mix up a goodun, let a reasonable blob of it set, for colour reference.
If you reproduce that colour each time, you're likely to increase the chances of the mix being right...
Re: Jack 10 lite build x 2
Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2012 4:32 am
by JonoSkip
Grant Bunter wrote:...next time you mix up a goodun, let a reasonable blob of it set, for colour reference.
If you reproduce that colour each time, you're likely to increase the chances of the mix being right...
Great tip Grant, thanks.
Re: Jack 10 lite build x 2
Posted: Sun Nov 04, 2012 6:17 am
by LelandCrooks
Zombie thread revival.
CNC kits for Jack10, 12 and 15 lite are on my site now. Nicely done by Don.
http://www.speakerhardware.com/whatsnew.php
Re: Jack 10 lite build x 2
Posted: Sun Nov 04, 2012 6:22 am
by Grant Bunter

Yay!
Now find a photgrapher and get some pics up as well lol...
Re: Jack 10 lite build x 2
Posted: Sun Nov 04, 2012 12:15 pm
by eac
I will get finished pictures up, but have been swamped with work

They are just flat black sprayed right now, will put up the pics when they get the Duratex treatment...
Did run them real quick in the backyard, aiming towards the mountains, very impressive for the size, to say the least.
Don
Re: Jack 10 lite build x 2
Posted: Sun Nov 04, 2012 4:31 pm
by lincsoldbird
Great biuld, not long finished 2 off my own. The output for such a small cab is unreal.
Any chance of you telling me where to get the info on the router?.
Paul.
Re: Jack 10 lite build x 2
Posted: Sun Mar 16, 2014 4:40 am
by timcarouge
Seeing the elegant curves of this design, and the fact that there are no staples, I thought to myself "it's a pity to cover that wood".
Do you have to run a bead from the front ? it seems things fit together so well that sealing from the back would be enough.
If it is necessary, one could lay a thin bead from the front, then just sand and oil (I like oiled wood)?
or maybe the bead could be a complementary color, rather than trying to hide it.
The outside could still be duratexed, and I think would add a nice contrast.
Thanks
Re: Jack 10 lite build x 2
Posted: Sun Mar 16, 2014 1:14 pm
by DJPhatman
timcarouge wrote:Seeing the elegant curves of this design, and the fact that there are no staples, I thought to myself "it's a pity to cover that wood".
Do you have to run a bead from the front ? it seems things fit together so well that sealing from the back would be enough.
If it is necessary, one could lay a thin bead from the front, then just sand and oil (I like oiled wood)?
or maybe the bead could be a complementary color, rather than trying to hide it.
The outside could still be duratexed, and I think would add a nice contrast.
Thanks
Hi, Tim. How you finish your build is entirely up to you. If you look, there are some pretty breath-taking finish jobs posted on the forum. You just have to look for them. Hint: the really nice finishes end up on Bill's sales pages!
Re: Jack 10 lite build x 2
Posted: Fri Jan 23, 2015 11:29 pm
by DJ Nada
Grant, are you selling hardware kits with the driver, jacks, etc?