New Build - T30s and then Otops to follow

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#166 Post by biggerrigger »

Grant Bunter wrote: For all I know biggerigger is larger and more redneck than you :wink:
More redneck I am sure of but not so sure about larger. 5'11" 185lbs of corn fed southern Ohio redneck. :cowboy: I will post a pic in my profile later today if you guys promise to keep your hands off of your self's.
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#167 Post by Bruce Weldy »

biggerrigger wrote:
Grant Bunter wrote: For all I know biggerigger is larger and more redneck than you :wink:
More redneck I am sure of but not so sure about larger. 5'11" 185lbs of corn fed southern Ohio redneck. :cowboy: I will post a pic in my profile later today if you guys promise to keep your hands off of your self's.

Looks like I take biggest redneck honors at 6'1" and 245......but it's all muscle......really.....no really, I mean it....shut up - that's not funny....

6 - T39 3012LF
4 - OT12 2512
1 - T24
1 - SLA Pro
2 - XF210


"A system with a few knobs set up by someone who knows what they are doing is always better than one with a lot of knobs set up by someone who doesn't."

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#168 Post by Grant Bunter »

biggerrigger wrote: Looks like spell check got the better of me again. (note to self, proof read and post before 6 cocktails)
My apologies Mr.Bunter
No worries mate.
The problem with spell check is it never has a problem with a word spelt correctly, and always totally ignores context. Regardless of how many "lemonades" one may have consumed.
Bruce Weldy wrote: ...but it's all muscle...
Uh huh


Back to the thread...
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DR 250: x 2 melded array, 2x CD horn, March 2012 plans.
T39's: 4 x 20" KL3010LF , 2 x 28" 3012LF.
WH8: x 6 with melded array wired series/parallel.
Bunter's Audio and Lighting "like"s would be most appreciated...

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#169 Post by DJPhatman »

Bruce Weldy wrote:Looks like I take biggest redneck honors at 6'1" and 245......but it's all muscle......really.....no really, I mean it....shut up - that's not funny....
So sorry, ladies, but I'll claim the biggest redneck honors at 5'11" and around 425 pounds (actual weight is unknown, as there are no scales large enough to weigh me) I ain't corn-fed, it is just eatin' muscle! Tom Smit has met me face to face, and I was a scrawny 365 pounds then! :shock:
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#170 Post by Tom Smit »

.....and I think there was even less of you when we first met. We'll have to get together again.
TomS

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#171 Post by AntonZ »

I don't stand a chance in that competition :lol: But if I get to travel to my relatives in Canada again, I intend to sneak away from my own family for a day and visit both of you. Not likely to happen this summer, hopefully 2014.

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#172 Post by DJPhatman »

Tom Smit wrote:.....and I think there was even less of you when we first met. We'll have to get together again.
You are welcome in my humble home anytime, my friend!
AntonZ wrote:I don't stand a chance in that competition :lol: But if I get to travel to my relatives in Canada again, I intend to sneak away from my own family for a day and visit both of you. Not likely to happen this summer, hopefully 2014.
WOOT! WOOT!
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#173 Post by escapemcp »

Sorry for lack of response for last few days. It was my nephews 1st birthday, so I hid in the garage building stuff! ;)

So Sitrep: 1st T30 almost there! Created my design to route out in the mouth of the speaker (panel 7?) - a nod to AntonZ where I saw this first (and sorry Anton that I didn't post before the weekend as promised). Painted up all but the 'back' of the speaker with duratex (well, Tuff Cote) and took the speaker into the house late last night to cure the paint. That paint is lovely stuff. Looks very pro :) Does stink a bit though and as I am using a (very) long handled roller to apply, the roller can slip sometimes - nothing quickly going over again doesn't fix. Will purchase detachable castors next week (atm: :broke: ) and countersink them into the 'back' of the cab (it will roll around with the mouth facing up).

The template for the recessed bit and then the results:
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Have also started on 2nd T30. Using far less screws than before, as the wood is much better (proper birch 9 ply). I am tending to only use them to take out warp or hold panels in place whilst the PL (well, 'builders expanding polyurethane foam' here in the UK) dries - although I don't remove them once finished.
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After starting on the 2nd T30 whilst the 1st was still being finished made me realise how much better it is to have several speakers on the go at once. If you hit a problem, you don't feel like you have to solve it there and then. You can move over to the other speaker and ponder the problem. It also means that you have something to move across to whilst the PL sets. So I decided to start on the Otops as well :) It was all going swimmingly (never did understand the etymology of that), until I stuck the top (or was it the bottom ;) ) on. Only after the PL dried did I realise that my speaker was wonky :( I haven't quite figured yet out how it has come about, but I know how to fix it and will be watching out for it when I make the next one. Anyway, here's the obligatory pics:
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Since I took those photos, I have cut one of the throat reflectors. It was a pain in the arse, as the reflector ends up so small you cannot screw or clamp any sort of sled to it. I ended up bodging a rig which I attached to my 'building' palette (get one - very handy :) ) It now means that when I cut the next one tonight, I can simply slide a bit of wood with the 1st 45° cut on it up to the jig, clamp in place and run the saw along it, and I will have a perfect cut :) I will take photos tonight, but it is nothing more advanced than a couple of bits of wood - one to bring the guide up to height of the bit of wood to cut, and one to act as the guide. I screwed it to the palette and it works a treat.
I drew a quick cross section of it to give you the idea:
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Having that 'overhang' of the saw guide made me think. I could make a dedicated angle cutter jig. Screw a straight guide to the palette, but with a 12mm bit of ply on each end, so that it is raised up with enough space in the middle so that you can slide in a bit of wood, clamp it at the right angle, and then cut. Something like this:
Side view:
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Plan view:
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EDIT: I should have written "path of saw travel" on the pic above, not just "Saw" which is pointing toward the angled white thing with the black border which is actually the piece of wood to be cut.
EDIT: The 'feet' in the top pic should be dark brown to match the bottom pic. The black is the palette or any surface to attach to.

I'll knock one up tonight to take care of my other angled cuts. I will try to remember to take photos, so that you can see it, rather than having to rely on my dodgy mspaint drawings! :D

Thought I'd also take a couple of photos of the garage I have taken over to create my workshop.
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So that brings you all up to date. Although my typing is good, *if only* I could learn to read what you guys are writing about in this post, I might be able to be a less annoying dickface :loler: . Now, can anyone tell me what driver is needed in a WH10, FFS!!!!! :horse:

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#174 Post by Bas Gooiker »

escapemcp wrote:Now, can anyone tell me what driver is needed in a WH10, FFS!!!!! :horse:
Beta 10a or premium would be Deltalite 2510.
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#175 Post by escapemcp »

Bas Gooiker wrote:
escapemcp wrote:Now, can anyone tell me what driver is needed in a WH10, FFS!!!!! :horse:
Beta 10a or premium would be Deltalite 2510.
:loler:

Now, one more time.. recommended driver for WH10? :slap: :slap: :slap: :slap: :slap: :slap: :slap: :slap: :slap: :slap: :slap: :horse: :horse: :horse: :cop:

Think I've got it now ;)

Thanks y'all.

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#176 Post by 88h88 »

Bas Gooiker wrote:
escapemcp wrote:Now, can anyone tell me what driver is needed in a WH10, FFS!!!!! :horse:
Beta 10a or premium would be Deltalite 2510.
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:lol:


...unless I've missed the joke in the joke...


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#177 Post by Grant Bunter »

That's a great logo for your cabs, well done!
Built:
DR 250: x 2 melded array, 2x CD horn, March 2012 plans.
T39's: 4 x 20" KL3010LF , 2 x 28" 3012LF.
WH8: x 6 with melded array wired series/parallel.
Bunter's Audio and Lighting "like"s would be most appreciated...

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#178 Post by AntonZ »

Grant Bunter wrote:That's a great logo for your cabs, well done!
+1
I totally love it :clap:
Do you have a design of the logo available in a computer drawing? If you do (and you don't mind sharing it), please send it over.

Biggest compliment one can get, others copying ones approach and making it look yet better and more pro. And to give credit where credit is due: I stole the idea from Dave Perry.
Well done, you are building some great looking cabs.

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#179 Post by escapemcp »

AntonZ wrote:
Grant Bunter wrote:That's a great logo for your cabs, well done!
+1
I totally love it :clap:
Do you have a design of the logo available in a computer drawing? If you do (and you don't mind sharing it), please send it over.

Biggest compliment one can get, others copying ones approach and making it look yet better and more pro. And to give credit where credit is due: I stole the idea from Dave Perry.
Well done, you are building some great looking cabs.
Um... it isn't a company logo. I wanted to put something on the sloped cab front, but didn't want to put my "T&L" on it, as the cabs *may* sometimes be used 'upright' (with the driver pointing down), which would rotate the letters :( After a week of mulling it over, I decided on a speaker type logo. I searched Google for speaker icon, and found http://www.airwavesireland.com/images/speaker-icon.jpg, which seemed to be what I was looking for. Increased size to fill an A4 sheet, and got the jigsaw out! I was worried that I hadn't altered it in ANY way to allow for the difference in width of the pattern follower compared to width of the router bit but when testing on a scrap of wood, it came out looking good, so I went with it :) I used a 6mm (1/4") straight cut bit to get the 'resolution' (read: sharp corners) that I was after

I do like the way the driver in the logo is the same orientation as the driver in the cab, and the 'sound pressure waves' are toward the mouth of the horn. It just seemed to work. I was considering trying to route a 'front on' view of a speaker complete with sloping cone and raised rounded dustcap, but I figured that this was way too ambitious for my first route! It would also have required a load of sanding after rough cutting, so passed on that idea (for now!) - not sure if the limited depth of the route would show the slope of the cone well enough or not.

The tops will have "T&L" (Thunder & Lighting - the name of the free party rig) routed on the side as they will always be upright. I bloody love that router - my #1 power tool! :chainsaw:

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#180 Post by escapemcp »

AntonZ wrote:Biggest compliment one can get, others copying ones approach and making it look yet better and more pro.
Noooooo... I want the best looking speaker logo cab!! :cussing:
AntonZ wrote: And to give credit where credit is due: I stole the idea from Dave Perry.
Thanks to Dave as well then. We are all standing on the shoulders of giants anyway - until you get to Yoda of course, he's tiny! :lol:

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