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Re: Gear in a trailer
Posted: Tue Sep 11, 2012 5:21 pm
by Bruce Weldy
Jon Barnhardt wrote:Bruce Weldy wrote:wounded horse wrote:Do you know anyone locally with garage space to rent cheap? Maybe someone retired and living alone without a car? I'd be advertising to find such a place. a trailer is just too easy to hitch up to a vehicle once the perp knows you're out of town.
That's why they make locks.
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and boltcutters and cordless metal saws...
Chicken/Egg scenario.
Personally I leave my trailer locked (door and hitch) inside my (locked) shop.
It would take a while to cut through ball lock in the picture. I have that one - it's pretty stout. Sure ain't gonna' happen with a boltcutter.
Certainly, storing inside is better....but I feel pretty safe with mine in the driveway locked up. Plus, I DON'T advertise what's inside. It's always tempting to put your band name or DJ service on the side - but, it's not worth it.
Re: Gear in a trailer
Posted: Tue Sep 11, 2012 5:42 pm
by DJPhatman
I feel obliged to chime in on this one, since I store my equipment outside, in a trailer, in my driveway. There is no harm in keeping equipment outside, just allow very cold equipment to "warm-up" before use. If you can't set up at least an hour or 3 before the gig, get yourself a portable heater. I have a multi-fuel "torpedo" type forced air heater that I picked up on craigslist for $35. Open a door, point the heater in, let her rip for a bit.
As for theft prevention, I live near one of the most crime-ridden areas of the metro Detroit area. If the would-be thieves get past my multipurpose locking systems, they must still contend with the very itchy trigger fingered neighbors around me. I am the newest neighbor when I bought in 2010. We all look out for each others properties, children, and guard them as if they were our own. Careful planning, and making sure everyone knows
your intentions[/i,] makes would-be thieves think twice about trying to "obtain" your property.
Bruce Weldy wrote:It would take a while to cut through ball lock in the picture. I have that one - it's pretty stout. Sure ain't gonna' happen with a boltcutter.
Certainly, storing inside is better....but I feel pretty safe with mine in the driveway locked up. Plus, I DON'T advertise what's inside. It's always tempting to put your band name or DJ service on the side - but, it's not worth it.
+1,000! If you make it very difficult to take what is not theirs, and extremely dangerous to get caught trying, you should be OK. There are no guarantees against theft, but making your property hazardous to their health is pretty darn good repellent. I, and at least 2 of my neighbors, have no qualms over protecting our property using any and all force available.

Re: Gear in a trailer
Posted: Tue Sep 11, 2012 5:47 pm
by Bruce Weldy
DJPhatman wrote:I feel obliged to chime in on this one, since I store my equipment outside, in a trailer, in my driveway. There is no harm in keeping equipment outside, just allow very cold equipment to "warm-up" before use. If you can't set up at least an hour or 3 before the gig, get yourself a portable heater. I have a multi-fuel "torpedo" type forced air heater that I picked up on craigslist for $35. Open a door, point the heater in, let her rip for a bit.
As for theft prevention, I live near one of the most crime-ridden areas of the metro Detroit area. If the would-be thieves get past my multipurpose locking systems, they must still contend with the very itchy trigger fingered neighbors around me. I am the newest neighbor when I bought in 2010. We all look out for each others properties, children, and guard them as if they were our own. Careful planning, and making sure everyone knows
your intentions[/i,] makes would-be thieves think twice about trying to "obtain" your property.
Bruce Weldy wrote:It would take a while to cut through ball lock in the picture. I have that one - it's pretty stout. Sure ain't gonna' happen with a boltcutter.
Certainly, storing inside is better....but I feel pretty safe with mine in the driveway locked up. Plus, I DON'T advertise what's inside. It's always tempting to put your band name or DJ service on the side - but, it's not worth it.
+1,000! If you make it very difficult to take what is not theirs, and extremely dangerous to get caught trying, you should be OK. There are no guarantees against theft, but making your property hazardous to their health is pretty darn good repellent. I, and at least 2 of my neighbors, have no qualms over protecting our property using any and all force available.

Just took my concealed carry class last weekend....along with my wife.
Re: Gear in a trailer
Posted: Tue Sep 11, 2012 6:01 pm
by AntonZ
Re: Gear in a trailer
Posted: Tue Sep 11, 2012 6:27 pm
by Bruce Weldy
AntonZ wrote:
Wow. Over here that would be looked at as humor only, for you guys it is actually serious. We understand the same language, share a passion, but there are quite some cultural differences as well. I find that fascinating. Also, I'm glad you people don't hate me. That and I live quite a bit away from you guys anyway

For something to be truly humorous there has to be a little truth in it.
The difference between Detroit and Texas is:
In Detroit, law-abiding citizens fear gun violence from criminals.
In Texas, the criminals fear gun violence from law-abiding citizens.

Re: Gear in a trailer
Posted: Tue Sep 11, 2012 7:00 pm
by DJPhatman
Bruce Weldy wrote:In Detroit, law-abiding citizens fear gun violence from criminals.
In Texas, the criminals fear gun violence from law-abiding citizens.

Not true, anymore. Michigan law now states that unless you don't meet the legal requirements, you must be issued a CPL (concealed pistol license). Trouble is, most folks in Michigan can't afford a pistol, let alone all the fees involved in getting a CPL. They just have to guess who is armed, and who isn't.
And, none of this applies to defending your home and property. Michigan recently passed a "fight, no flight" law, meaning you have the right to defend yourself, others in danger of bodily harm or sexual penetration, and property. Since I am handicapped, any and all threats to my person are deemed "life threatening". I have no reasonable chance for safe escape.
Re: Gear in a trailer
Posted: Tue Sep 11, 2012 7:40 pm
by CoronaOperator
We don't carry guns here but you can be sure I'll be wearing a vest if I ever get lost in Michigan and need to ask someone a question.
http://news.nationalpost.com/2012/08/09/walt-wawra/
Re: Gear in a trailer
Posted: Tue Sep 11, 2012 8:03 pm
by dheafey
DJPhatman wrote:
Not true, anymore. Michigan law now states that unless you don't meet the legal requirements, you must be issued a CPL (concealed pistol license).
Technically, this is known as
SHALL ISSUE. The Republic of Massachusetts, from which I hail, is MAY ISSUE. The CLEO of each town/city has the right to set limitations on firearms licenses. My brother-in-law, an Army vet who carried as part of his job, CANNOT carry concealed because of the city he lives in. The variability from state to state is just one of the many inconsistencies that we have to put up with.
Pop Quiz: which of the 50 United States has the most liberal (lax?) firearms laws?
Re: Gear in a trailer
Posted: Tue Sep 11, 2012 8:09 pm
by biggerrigger
Same goes for Ohio. Both my wife and I have been CCW holders for quite a while now. I have my CCW due to my line of work. I have been held at gun point 2 times in the last 7 years while at work. I decided that the 2nd time was the last time that will ever happen to me.
Re: Gear in a trailer
Posted: Tue Sep 11, 2012 8:12 pm
by biggerrigger
Pop Quiz= Either TX or AZ
Re: Gear in a trailer
Posted: Tue Sep 11, 2012 8:33 pm
by dheafey
biggerrigger wrote:Pop Quiz= Either TX or AZ
AZ is close but the answer is, wait for it...
VT!!!
Whooda thunk a Northeastern state would let you pack heat, concealed or otherwise, with so few restrictions.
Re: Gear in a trailer
Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2012 1:04 am
by wounded horse
Doesn't Bill live there?

Re: Gear in a trailer
Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2012 1:07 am
by wounded horse
And of course if you can rent a garage or some other storage, you don't have to worry about your speaker adhesive popping while avoiding a dirty Harry shootout on your drive

Re: Gear in a trailer
Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2012 1:39 am
by horst
biggerrigger wrote:Same goes for Ohio. Both my wife and I have been CCW holders for quite a while now. I have my CCW due to my line of work. I have been held at gun point 2 times in the last 7 years while at work. I decided that the 2nd time was the last time that will ever happen to me.
So you're going down in a blaze of glory next time? I wish you good reflexes and constant vigilance.
It's hard to predict the future of course but I can envisage one where it will be prudent for a would be mugger to shoot first rather than the traditional "give me your money OR I'll shoot" because he doesn't want to take the chance that his victim might be packing heat.
Re: Gear in a trailer
Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2012 3:26 am
by wounded horse
The way a society is managed can't be right when you can go into a shop with all the relevant paperwork and buy a gun. It just has WRONG written all over it.