I don't even remember. I'd guess about 8-10 years since the last auto project.lincsoldbird wrote:Great shop could realy get lost in there, gas bottles and all.
What was the last auto project?
Lab12 T30's
Re: Lab12 T30's
Donny Collins
Built:
Two 18" Tuba 30's 3012 LF
Two 26" Tuba 30's Lab 12
Two OmniTop 12's DL 2512 (Melded Array)
Presonus Studio One DAW
Harrison Consoles MixBus 32C DAW
Built:
Two 18" Tuba 30's 3012 LF
Two 26" Tuba 30's Lab 12
Two OmniTop 12's DL 2512 (Melded Array)
Presonus Studio One DAW
Harrison Consoles MixBus 32C DAW
Re: Lab12 T30's
Come on Donny....build that second pair!
Thought you might need some encouragement
Thought you might need some encouragement
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2xOT12(Deltalite 2512 loaded, w/melded arrays)
2xOT12(Deltalite 2512 loaded, w/flat array) "In Process"
4xT30(24", 4012HO loaded)
1xAT
2xOT12(Deltalite 2512 loaded, w/melded arrays)
2xOT12(Deltalite 2512 loaded, w/flat array) "In Process"
4xT30(24", 4012HO loaded)
1xAT
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Re: Lab12 T30's
Technically it should be ok to mix them, the 3012LF and LAB 12 in parallel should average a bit over 4 ohm. More current would flow to the LAB because of it's lower impedance, which may or may not make it match well with the 3012LF. Paralleling the like pairs on a channel each would allow you to adjust their volumes to match - or crank one pair more if the situation warrantsdoncolga wrote:Quick question here...since I'll have two 3012lf's and two Lab 12's, does is matter how I load these on the power amp? Should I keep the 3012's together on one channel and the Lab 12's together on the other, or do Lab12+3012lf on each channel?
Thanks!
Donny

I suspect that the LAB will require more power than the 3012LF to reach the same volume.
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Re: Lab12 T30's
Moot. Amplifiers are voltage sources, not power sources. They'll deliver the same voltage into a Lab or 3012LF. The Lab has a bit less sensitivity than the 3012, but that's offset by its lower impedance, so they end up very close.Mark Coward wrote:
I suspect that the LAB will require more power than the 3012LF to reach the same volume.
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Re: Lab12 T30's
Yeah, that's what I meant to sayBill Fitzmaurice wrote:Moot. Amplifiers are voltage sources, not power sources. They'll deliver the same voltage into a Lab or 3012LF. The Lab has a bit less sensitivity than the 3012, but that's offset by its lower impedance, so they end up very close.Mark Coward wrote:
I suspect that the LAB will require more power than the 3012LF to reach the same volume.

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Re: Lab12 T30's
Today is my last day at my "day job" before the holidays, so I'll be off from that until January 3. Certainly (heavy sarcasm here) I'll be able to find time to get this project moving in the midst of Honey-Do lists
. My tools and BB have been waiting on me patiently now a quite a little while now. My happy couple of T30's really needs to be a family of four ASAP.

Donny Collins
Built:
Two 18" Tuba 30's 3012 LF
Two 26" Tuba 30's Lab 12
Two OmniTop 12's DL 2512 (Melded Array)
Presonus Studio One DAW
Harrison Consoles MixBus 32C DAW
Built:
Two 18" Tuba 30's 3012 LF
Two 26" Tuba 30's Lab 12
Two OmniTop 12's DL 2512 (Melded Array)
Presonus Studio One DAW
Harrison Consoles MixBus 32C DAW
Re: Lab12 T30's
Do it! Do it! Do it! Yaaaaaaaaaay!doncolga wrote: My happy couple of T30's really needs to be a family of four ASAP.

2 x T30 23" -3012LF v-plate
2 x Econowave Deluxe HO (awesome custom tops using 3012HO and B&C DE250 on QSC horn)
1 x T39 25" -3012LF
1 x Autotuba -Tang Band
"No Toby, I said a PHILLIPS screwdriver..." (Used Cars, 1980)
2 x Econowave Deluxe HO (awesome custom tops using 3012HO and B&C DE250 on QSC horn)
1 x T39 25" -3012LF
1 x Autotuba -Tang Band
"No Toby, I said a PHILLIPS screwdriver..." (Used Cars, 1980)
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Re: Lab12 T30's
Merry Christmas and Happy Building Donny, I'm pretty keen to hear all about how much they decimate eardrums everywhere. You have some serious self control.... I would have been sneaking out to the operating theatre the minute my missus dozed off, probably with a stash of energy drinks to keep the heart going at work the next day though 

Built 2 x T39 Lab 12 loaded 457mm wide, 29inch Wide Dual Lab 12 Loaded T60 and 2 x OTop 112 2512 Melded. Powered by N.I.TRAKTOR Pro 2.6 (2.6.1 has too many issues) TRAKTOR KONTROL S2 Crown XTi2000
Re: Lab12 T30's
Thanks man...its been *extremely* slow going. I really thought I would have had the pair done by now, but not even close. I can take my time on this pair though. My New Year's gig is small, so I won't need them for that and my next job probably won't be until Valentine's...they could be useful for that because that's been a teen dance the past couple of years.Titanium Hand wrote:Merry Christmas and Happy Building Donny, I'm pretty keen to hear all about how much they decimate eardrums everywhere. You have some serious self control.... I would have been sneaking out to the operating theatre the minute my missus dozed off, probably with a stash of energy drinks to keep the heart going at work the next day though
Donny Collins
Built:
Two 18" Tuba 30's 3012 LF
Two 26" Tuba 30's Lab 12
Two OmniTop 12's DL 2512 (Melded Array)
Presonus Studio One DAW
Harrison Consoles MixBus 32C DAW
Built:
Two 18" Tuba 30's 3012 LF
Two 26" Tuba 30's Lab 12
Two OmniTop 12's DL 2512 (Melded Array)
Presonus Studio One DAW
Harrison Consoles MixBus 32C DAW
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Re: Lab12 T30's
How's it going Donny? Making progress?doncolga wrote:...its been *extremely* slow going. I really thought I would have had the pair done by now, but not even close. I can take my time on this pair though. My New Year's gig is small, so I won't need them for that and my next job probably won't be until Valentine's...they could be useful for that because that's been a teen dance the past couple of years.
I made some headway over the weekend with my 2 18x30s. I've just installed the cab bottoms (I'm thinking that is part #8?), but things have slowed down since I got to the parts that need 2 braces each (3 parts to cut and fit instead of 1). And beginning with this part I'm cutting handles too, so a lot of operations for each additional piece added. I'll be lucky to finish them by next weekend, but as long as I'm making progress I guess it takes as long as it takes.
Gary
Re: Lab12 T30's
At a stand still at the moment as we're in the middle of a move. I thought for sure we would have *been* there by now. The shop is at the new place and everything is there still waiting on me. Really looking forward to finally getting over there.beofservice wrote:How's it going Donny? Making progress?doncolga wrote:...its been *extremely* slow going. I really thought I would have had the pair done by now, but not even close. I can take my time on this pair though. My New Year's gig is small, so I won't need them for that and my next job probably won't be until Valentine's...they could be useful for that because that's been a teen dance the past couple of years.
I made some headway over the weekend with my 2 18x30s. I've just installed the cab bottoms (I'm thinking that is part #8?), but things have slowed down since I got to the parts that need 2 braces each (3 parts to cut and fit instead of 1). And beginning with this part I'm cutting handles too, so a lot of operations for each additional piece added. I'll be lucky to finish them by next weekend, but as long as I'm making progress I guess it takes as long as it takes.
Gary
Donny
Donny Collins
Built:
Two 18" Tuba 30's 3012 LF
Two 26" Tuba 30's Lab 12
Two OmniTop 12's DL 2512 (Melded Array)
Presonus Studio One DAW
Harrison Consoles MixBus 32C DAW
Built:
Two 18" Tuba 30's 3012 LF
Two 26" Tuba 30's Lab 12
Two OmniTop 12's DL 2512 (Melded Array)
Presonus Studio One DAW
Harrison Consoles MixBus 32C DAW
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Re: Lab12 T30's
Well, moving will definitely take up some time. Here's hoping you get through it quickly and still have energy left over for the build.doncolga wrote:
At a stand still at the moment as we're in the middle of a move. I thought for sure we would have *been* there by now. The shop is at the new place and everything is there still waiting on me. Really looking forward to finally getting over there.
Donny
Re: Lab12 T30's
Hmmm...wonder if I can get the second pair done over three weekends? Playing a big room on 2-11 for Valentine's Dance.
Donny Collins
Built:
Two 18" Tuba 30's 3012 LF
Two 26" Tuba 30's Lab 12
Two OmniTop 12's DL 2512 (Melded Array)
Presonus Studio One DAW
Harrison Consoles MixBus 32C DAW
Built:
Two 18" Tuba 30's 3012 LF
Two 26" Tuba 30's Lab 12
Two OmniTop 12's DL 2512 (Melded Array)
Presonus Studio One DAW
Harrison Consoles MixBus 32C DAW
Re: Lab12 T30's
I have a question about the Lab12 modification for the T30's. Wouldn't it be good to install the reducers as soon as I get the inner most chamber panels in place? I figure I could get fasteners to them easier at that point. Thoughts?
Donny Collins
Built:
Two 18" Tuba 30's 3012 LF
Two 26" Tuba 30's Lab 12
Two OmniTop 12's DL 2512 (Melded Array)
Presonus Studio One DAW
Harrison Consoles MixBus 32C DAW
Built:
Two 18" Tuba 30's 3012 LF
Two 26" Tuba 30's Lab 12
Two OmniTop 12's DL 2512 (Melded Array)
Presonus Studio One DAW
Harrison Consoles MixBus 32C DAW