Introducing SPL Chart

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#121 Post by moo »

Chris_Allen wrote:Afaik, the OT12's were measured with the 2512. I do have charts for the 3012HO which I need to get sampled.
That would be Brill. The Delta Pro 12 should be similar, - but heavier of course.
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#122 Post by moo »

Chris_Allen wrote:Afaik, the OT12's were measured with the 2512. I do have charts for the 3012HO which I need to get sampled.
Mystery over. The 3012HO chart is now included in the updated plans.
Is your chart for the new phase plugged OT12?
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#123 Post by Chris_Allen »

The existing charts are for the old design but are scheduled to be updated.
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#124 Post by tdogg »

any chance you could model a O15tb/wb against a fEARful 15/6?
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#125 Post by Bill Fitzmaurice »

tdogg wrote:any chance you could model a O15tb/wb against a fEARful 15/6?
Do you have a measured chart for the 15/6?

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#126 Post by tdogg »

Bill Fitzmaurice wrote:
tdogg wrote:any chance you could model a O15tb/wb against a fEARful 15/6?
Do you have a measured chart for the 15/6?
i dont. ill ask around on Talkbass to see if one exists
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#127 Post by WB »

tdogg wrote:any chance you could model a O15tb/wb against a fEARful 15/6?
Maybe not exactly what you're looking for, but I compared the the woofer only sections of both using the exact same 3015LF driver. Outside, ground plane.

Omni has a 3-4 dB advantage at 40-50 Hz, Ff has 3-4 dB advantage at 80-100 Hz.
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#128 Post by Bill Fitzmaurice »

WB wrote: Omni has a 3-4 dB advantage at 40-50 Hz, Ff has 3-4 dB advantage at 80-100 Hz.
I've built another O15TB to do so some revisions, mainly to the midhorn/tweeter. I'm not getting the nulls at 80-100Hz and 315Hz like you are. I'm also not getting that 50Hz bump, and the LF corner is at 40 Hz. I'm using a 2515 woofer for the testing. In theory the 3015LF should be almost identical, so I'm still puzzled with your result.

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#129 Post by Harley »

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#130 Post by Bruce Weldy »

Harley wrote:
I'm assuming no piezos or horn on that J110?

6 - T39 3012LF
4 - OT12 2512
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#131 Post by DaveK »

Bruce Weldy wrote:I'm assuming no piezos or horn on that J110?
Correct. That chart is the one for driver-only. No tweeters of any type.

Harley, was your point that the W10 has better response than the J110 across the board? Are you thinking of switching?

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#132 Post by Harley »

DaveK wrote:
Bruce Weldy wrote:I'm assuming no piezos or horn on that J110?
Correct. That chart is the one for driver-only. No tweeters of any type.

Harley, was your point that the W10 has better response than the J110 across the board? Are you thinking of switching?
It''s not for me - I have a client who wants both a W10 monitor for keys and a J110 for upright bass. Was thinking of just one wedge shaped J100 or a W10 to do both jobs, hence the comparison.

For my own personal bass use, I am happy with my J110s in either one, two or three stacks for most my gigs which invariably have FOH so no I would not switch to a W10 for bass. I just need enough sound on stage and that's it. The T39/Dr250 are our FOH system. I am more concerned about what comes out of FOH than on stage and the T39/DR250 deliver excellent quality with heaps of low end if need be.
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#133 Post by DaveK »

Here's an apples-to-apples comparison with a cab about the same size.



That looks like a tie to me. The J112 stacks better and takes a bit more power. The W10 has the flexibility to be used as either a wedge or a top. If I were looking at building a pair of J112's as tops, I'd seriously consider building W10's instead.

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#134 Post by sine143 »

you guys must have all missed the thread where I was talking about using W10s as dedicated tops.... :noob:
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2x Tuba 30s delta12lf loaded (gone)
4x Otop12 d2512 loaded
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#135 Post by Drey Chennells »

sine143 wrote:you guys must have all missed the thread where I was talking about using W10s as dedicated tops.... :noob:
link it up man
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