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#46 Post by Strapping Young Stu »

vlad335 wrote: I mean ZERO feedback no matter how loud we play. Whats the deal with that? Is this a charactoristic of horns?
Usually

I think its down to 3 factors

1) EQ - flat frequency response
2) Much better control of dispersion angles in the mid - high frequencies than you get with a reflex - more sound goes forward and less reflects off the side walls.
3) Narrow vertical dispersion means fewer reflections from the ceiling and floor.

System looks great, I agree about painting or covering those X stands.

I hope to be able to post the same about my OT12s soon.

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#47 Post by vlad335 »

Strapping Young Stu wrote:
vlad335 wrote: I mean ZERO feedback no matter how loud we play. Whats the deal with that? Is this a charactoristic of horns?
Usually

I think its down to 3 factors

1) EQ - flat frequency response
2) Much better control of dispersion angles in the mid - high frequencies than you get with a reflex - more sound goes forward and less reflects off the side walls.
3) Narrow vertical dispersion means fewer reflections from the ceiling and floor.
That makes sense Stu. The lack of annoying feedback is a definate plus to this system. A charactoristic that isn't even touted here but none the less true.
The last band I was in the guitar player owned the system which consisted of eight 15+horns and six 18's and six poweramps. All EQ's set in a smily face. Feedback city! Ringing and squeling all night. It would get so bad that the soundman would just pull the mains way down by the second set and there you have it. Later, they bought Feedback Destroyers that basically killed the sound and they quit using them. At that time I knew more that the soundman and guitar player put together (I know a helluva lot more now, thanks to Bill and this forum) and kept trying to convince them to get an RTA. I don't think the DEQ was around at the time and RTA's were expensive. Still, two Behringer feedback destroyers are quite pricy especailly if you leave them home!

When I think back to this it brings a smile to my face. I'm using a portion of this gear and a 1/3rd of the power and it's louder and sounds 10 times better.
System looks great, I agree about painting or covering those X stands.
Ahh. everybodies dissing my X stands. I like them but now you guys are getting me thinking. OK. What would be the best way to paint them so it doesn't chip off in 2 shows? The red is plastic and the poles are aluminum. What about Duratex?
I hope to be able to post the same about my OT12s soon.

Stu
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#48 Post by AntonZ »

vlad335 wrote:Ahh. everybodies dissing my X stands. I like them but now you guys are getting me thinking.
Don't follow up blindly what we say - reading your response made me think again, and it could very well be that the flashlight makes things worse than they are. Nevertheless, it doesn't hurt to look at your system the way a bar owner or visitor would. You know, without the "I-put-this-together-with-my-own-two-hands"-feeling. That's what I was trying to bring accross. No dissing intended, I admire what you put together there.
OK. What would be the best way to paint them so it doesn't chip off in 2 shows? The red is plastic and the poles are aluminum. What about Duratex?
I think no paint will stick to this and be sturdy enough to survive regular setup-teardown and transport. That's why I suggested hanging some black fabric, just like they do in hotels to make regular tables look all fancy. Velcro might just work fine. As an added bonus it hides anything behind the stands from view, typically spare instruments, guitar stands, cables and the like.

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#49 Post by Strapping Young Stu »

AntonZ wrote: I think no paint will stick to this and be sturdy enough to survive regular setup-teardown and transport. That's why I suggested hanging some black fabric, just like they do in hotels to make regular tables look all fancy. Velcro might just work fine. As an added bonus it hides anything behind the stands from view, typically spare instruments, guitar stands, cables and the like.
Good point, hiding stuff especially in nice venues is sometimes difficult, so having the facility to get rid of coats, bags and other accessories under some fabric is always welcome, as is the fact that it disguises the stands to look like tables which might fit in with decor

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#50 Post by vlad335 »

AntonZ wrote:Don't follow up blindly what we say - reading your response made me think again, and it could very well be that the flashlight makes things worse than they are. Nevertheless, it doesn't hurt to look at your system the way a bar owner or visitor would. You know, without the "I-put-this-together-with-my-own-two-hands"-feeling. That's what I was trying to bring accross. No dissing intended, I admire what you put together there.
Its all good Man. I not offended at all. Actually, it's a great point you brought up. Going to look into it.
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AntonZ wrote:
vlad335 wrote:Ahh. everybodies dissing my X stands. I like them but now you guys are getting me thinking.
I think no paint will stick to this and be sturdy enough to survive regular setup-teardown and transport. That's why I suggested hanging some black fabric, just like they do in hotels to make regular tables look all fancy. Velcro might just work fine. As an added bonus it hides anything behind the stands from view, typically spare instruments, guitar stands, cables and the like.
There's some stuff called "Bulldog Primer" that you can find at auto parts stores. It's made to prime flexible plastic body panels, etc. I've used it with great success to prime plastic and metal. As for the x-stands, I don't mind the aluminum. It's the red that stands out.

If you decide to go the drape route, roll the drape up for storage as opposed to folding it. The creases would look worse than the red corners IMO.
I'm not a musician, but I play one in a band.

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