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Omni 15TB Review

#1 Post by gilmour »

Hi,

Over the course of the last month I've been building an Omni 15TB for use as a bass cab, I went with the recommended drivers, including the Compression driver.

Before this I was playing through either a Peavey BX 1x15 or a Trace Elliot 4X10, depending on whether I could be bothered to lug the dead weight of the Trace to gigs. I also do a few dep. gigs where a backlin is supplied, usually and ampeg 6x10 (sometimes 8x10 sometimes 4x10).

If you are interested you can view my build thread here:
http://basschat.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=11971
or here
http://www.finnbass.com/showthread.php?t=1906

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So how does it sound?
Most peoples first response is loud and yes it is noticeably louder than either of my other cabs at similar settings, but that wasn't my overall impression, 3 words ... PUNCHY .... DEEP ... CLEAR ...

The clarity of the sound is amazing, all of my little mistakes it picks up - for example resting my thumb on the B string you can hear when I knock the string against the pickup.

The sound is really really HiFi and does come through as Bass, Middle, and Treble. When I turned up or down one of the controls on my bass the corresponding speaker got noticeably louder or quieter! I know it's designed to do this but it still blows me away, and spent ages with a stupid grin on my face doing exactly this.

The top end is crystal clear, and I have found myself backing off the treble more than I would in the past. When you slap at volume I'd advise you sit well back, the top end is truly eye popping

Midrange is really really punchy for a single 8" speaker, and not like many 4x10's with that kind of grunty sound but a much more clear and defined note that doesn't distort. I've always used solid states and relied on cabs to give me that little bit of grunt, however since I've been playing this I've had the 'warm' button (basically a valve emulator) on my amp permanently on, as is the grin on my face :)

The low end is just awesome, it is a really clear deep bass that doesn't boom, and projects well, and handled every low B I threw at it with ease. I found with this cab I didn't need the 'bass boost' on my amp turned on (I would normally have it on), as it already sounds sweet and deep and coupled with the other drivers sounds great.

Last night I had the chance to use this with my band at Rehersals, Without doubt it's the best sounding cab I've ever used. My main gig is with an 11 piece funk/hip hop band, hearing yourself in the mix can often be an issue (especially as our keyborad plyaer has a very busy right hand)

As all BFM builders will tell you it is noticeably louder, I had the volume at about two thirds of what it would normally be, couple that with the clarity and you;re onto a winner.

With my previous set up I find you have the choice between either deep bass or clear mids and definition, often finding that if you want a really fat bass sound you loose clarity and definition with some of the more subtle parts of your playing. Often I found myself 'over EQing' to try and compensate for this and further muddying my sound.

With the Omni15TB you have both, the deep low notes were really fat and subby, yet when I filled, played dead notes etc these were not lost and sat just as clearly in the mix. I set my EQ fairly flat, with the treble backed off slightly, and the bass boosted a little, sweet tonal heaven:)

A great added bonus is that I wasn't expecting just how much my pedals come to life with this, effects are just so much more transparent and audible, a lot of the 'effect' comes from the midrange speaker, with the 15" holding down the low end, meaning that (as is sometimes the case) you don't loose the bass or volume when you switch on your effects.

..simply awesome

and I made it !

A lot of people have asked me about size and portability, and it is a big cab comparble to the size of a 6x10, but way way lighter, it's lighter then either of my other cabs. IMHO it smacks an Ampeg 6x10 in every imaginable way - sound, portability, volume, looks, weight - although I do really dislike those Ampeg cabs (all image no content), they do that 'Grunty' Thing I mention above

Transporting the kit back to mine I realised one of the things that I like the best about the cab...
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look at that fits perfectly in me boot. This is the first gig sized cab I have ever owned that I don't need to fold the seats down for! :)

Thanks

Rob

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#2 Post by David Robinson »

The cab looks awesome! Many kudos! :D
I'm not a musician, but I play one in a band.

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#3 Post by David Carter »

Very nice!
Dave

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- 4 x DR200 (Delta Pro 8B + melded array)

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#4 Post by Ron P »

Cool.
I've been considering the O15TB as a drum fill monitor. Any thoughts?

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Very nice!

#5 Post by MYork »

I enjoyed reading about the build on the link you provided. Nice job! MY

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#6 Post by gilmour »

Thanks for the kind words every one, I really am over the moon with this cab.
Ron P wrote:Cool.
I've been considering the O15TB as a drum fill monitor. Any thoughts?
I really have no Idea I'm afraid I've only used this with my bass, although I have no doubt it would function well through PA as it really is full range.

My only thought would be that it might be a little large for a drum monitor

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#7 Post by gilmour »

I htought ld update this reivew as last night I did my first gig with the O15.

And what a difference. It was a small Pub/Club gig (about 250 - 250ish people) so the PA was vox, horns, keys, percussion but anymore would have been driving it a little to hard. So the bass was all down to me.

The Sound was fantastic, I was able to really crank the amp. What was great was that despite not going through the PA I still had plenty of sub. In fact at poitn it was almost too much - there is one track where for the chorus I whack the bass bosst on my pre up full, however with the BFM it's much more sensitive to the changes so when I first whacked it up full -way way too much.

As you'd expect the clarity 'onstage' was much clearer also and I could really hear the subtleties in my playing, dead notes etc. Infact where previously when I wasn't playing i'd just leave the bass hanging around my neck I was having to be much more concious abotut turning the volume down, or mutting using my tuner, as any little sounds really stood out.

At war volume it does 'grunt' a little more, but less than a comparable 6x10, and infact just enough to get ridof a little bit of my relentlessly modern sound which has been worrying me a little of late, so even the grunt was a bonus.

I had more than one comment after the gig on how good the bass sounded, from band and punters, including a young lady who was trying to chat me up - which was nice - and as we all know bass players are never the centre of adoration - so it must be the cab!

Now having used this thing in a gig setting I realy realy am dreading the next dep gig I've got where a backline is supplied, I don't know how I'm going to go back to that muffled lack of clarity I'd pick this over an Ampeg every day of the week

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#8 Post by Marko Ursin »

I had my first gig with O15TB last night. Worked very fine. The sound was clear and I could hear myself very easily. The other band of the night also used my bass gear. I liked the sound of the bass a lot. Very articulate and clear sounding bass. The lows were great, even at moderate volumes we had. My 50W tube head was easily more than enough for this kind of a gig. Anything bigger and I think we need more PA than our DR200's for the vocals and keys.

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#9 Post by BillyG »

Good looking build and a great review. I have used the omni15 at several gigs, one of which was an outdoor party. I was impressed at how well this cab handled the outdoor thing. It had superior clarity and the bass end was strong and punchy. No doubt this is a strong contender for bass cab of the year, especially the tall boy configuration. Thanks to Bill for another great design!

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#10 Post by gilmour »

yeah it really is a fantastic design. I'ev gigged it quite a few times now, and it always atracts attention. Usually for the looks, and then they hear it :) and you get a different kind of attention.

Playin at a Funk night on Friday people were commenting on how good the system sounded and that they could really feel the bass (about 150 - 200 capacity venue) we always have a good sound there. It was only afterwards that the engineer told me I hadn't been going through the system so all the lows and subs were being generated by the onstage. I hadn't realised he'd only taken the DI as a 'just in case'. Sweet :)

The more I gig this thing the more I wonder how I ever managed without it, or for that matter how anyone does, I used my Peavey 1x15 the other day just to see how it sounded and it was WTF this was fine before but now... just doesn't cut the mustard.

Everyone needs one of these cabs in their life.

Rob

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#11 Post by gerryc »

Hi Rob,

I got a question on your tweeter. I read your build diary and saw that you used the recommended compression driver (Eminence ASD 1001 HF), but your horn doesn't look like the Selenium HC23-25 which is more "rectangular" in shape. Yours looks pretty square which looks nicer to me in the tallboy design. Are my eyes worse than I know they already are or did you use something different? Thanks.

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#12 Post by DAVID_L_PERRY »

gerryc wrote:Hi Rob...your horn doesn't look like the Selenium HC23-25 which is more "rectangular" in shape. Yours looks pretty square which looks nicer to me in the tallboy design. Are my eyes worse than I know they already are or did you use something different? Thanks.
Rob used an alternative approved Fane horn as the Selenium is hard to find in the UK

Its listed in the tips section:-
HF horn for Omni 12, Omni 15 & Otops

They are the same as what's sold under the Goldwood brand at PE.
Its the Fane FH195
Here you go, less than £5:-
http://www.kitkave.co.uk/pa_live_sound/ ... id=froogle

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#13 Post by gerryc »

DAVID_L_PERRY wrote:
Rob used an alternative approved Fane horn as the Selenium is hard to find in the UK

Its listed in the tips section:-
HF horn for Omni 12, Omni 15 & Otops

They are the same as what's sold under the Goldwood brand at PE.
Its the Fane FH195
Here you go, less than £5:-
http://www.kitkave.co.uk/pa_live_sound/ ... id=froogle

Ah, I see. So is this the Goldwood horn equivalent to the Fane unit?

http://www.partsexpress.com/pe/showdetl ... er=270-092

Thanks,
gerry

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#14 Post by gilmour »

Hi Gerry, on Dave's reccomendation I used the above horn, it's similar but not the same as the Selenium one, and saved me a fortune

Purely about price and sourcing, the Fane one was around £5 where as to get a Selenium one imported (from France I think) would have been about £50 !

There is a thread about it here, http://billfitzmaurice.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=4861

My understanding is that the Selenium is the optimum one, but others (with similar stats) will perform ok.

Hope this helps :)

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#15 Post by gerryc »

Thanks, Rob. I have the option of using the original Selenium or the Goldwood equivalent to the Fane that you used. Both are fairly inexpensive here in the US. I didn't realize your difficulty in sourcing the Selenium in the UK, but the Fane unit looks nice on your cabinet (but we really care about the sound first, appearance second, right? :wink: ). Anyway, great looking build you did there. I've been teetering between an O12 (maybe a pair) or an OT15. The OT15 won't fit in my car (a bit too deep, but a pair of O12s would interestingly), but then again, since I haven't done much gigging in quite a while, it's probably more for getting my jollies at home. That'll give me an excuse to build more cabs that do fit in my car, just in case 8).

cheers,
gerry

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