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#121 Post by T_Gowan »

ROOT BEER , ho luxury, (my best Monty Python imitation.) Me it was family singing group, Carter Family, Gospel stuff like that. Nothing made my dad happier that when we all sang together.
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T_Gowan wrote: Mon Nov 25, 2019 4:28 pm ROOT BEER , ho luxury, (my best Monty Python imitation.) Me it was family singing group, Carter Family, Gospel stuff like that. Nothing made my dad happier that when we all sang together.
That's pretty cool......not much musical ability in my family. My Grandmother played harmonica and there's me.....not sure where I got the music gene.

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Bruce Weldy wrote: Mon Nov 25, 2019 7:23 pm That's pretty cool......not much musical ability in my family. My Grandmother played harmonica and there's me.....not sure where I got the music gene.
I can play a bit of cross harp. Blues riff kinda stuff. Although, I wouldn't consider myself any sort of musician.
When it came to toting instruments around, it always seemed like the most practical was the harmonica, followed by the tambourine or guiro... maybe a profesional hand clapper or whistler would trump any of those options. Those whistler guys are downright amazing.
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Grant Bunter wrote: Sat Nov 23, 2019 6:51 pm Go dual axle, especially with a 6 x 10.
It sits better full or empty. Tows better, more stable...
Dual axle certainly is less sensitive to load balance. However, one of my requirements is ease of moving the trailer around my storage space by hand. In my experience, pivoting a dual axle trailer 180º within it's own length by hand is nearly impossible. Although it's a piece of cake with a single axle trailer. As long as the load is distributed appropriately, a single tracks and tows just fine. Personally, I'd only go with multiple axles if the payload required it or the price couldn't be passed up.
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Bruce Weldy wrote: Mon Nov 25, 2019 10:19 am ...Trailer doesn't leave for less than $400...
This brings up a question I had. What's the biggest event you've done with your system, or what type of event would you pass on to a larger system?
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SethRocksYou wrote: Mon Nov 25, 2019 11:43 pm
Bruce Weldy wrote: Mon Nov 25, 2019 10:19 am ...Trailer doesn't leave for less than $400...
This brings up a question I had. What's the biggest event you've done with your system, or what type of event would you pass on to a larger system?
I've been doing an outside event for the past six years every summer. Every Thursday night in the month of June and July 4th. Attendance can range from 300-500. But, the closest anyone sits is about 60 feet from the stage. So, it has to cover a large area of people spread out.

Another event I've done a few times is a local bar that has a big party in their parking lot. Smaller area to cover, but twice as many people.

Biggest inside event was in our local Civic Center. Coverage was good about halfway back through the room, then its fell off pretty quick - but, it's a really big room.

I know my limitations and won't try to do an event that I can't do properly.

I've turned down shows where I didn't feel that I could handle the input count or the load in/out was too hard.

My rig sits nicely between the big boys with line arrays and the local guys who have a system for their band with two subs holding up two tops.

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Happy Thanksgiving everyone. I'm thankful for all you guys and the quality resource this forum is. Thank you Bill.

For those of you outside the US... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thanksgiv ... ed_States)
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#128 Post by Bryan Cox »

Same to you, Seth; and everyone else here. I know not everyone celebrates Thanksgiving, but I'd like to take a second to thank everyone here for the awesome brotherhood, camaraderie, lessons, and sarcasm. I truly cherish this forum.
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#129 Post by Rich4349 »

Ok is it me and my phone (plus an overwhelmed cell tower?), or is the entire internet running dog slow today?
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Rich4349 wrote: Fri Nov 29, 2019 12:01 pm Ok is it me and my phone (plus an overwhelmed cell tower?), or is the entire internet running dog slow today?
No problem in this part of the world...

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#131 Post by Bill Fitzmaurice »

Black Friday. All those sales transactions suck up bandwidth.

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Bruce Weldy wrote: Tue Nov 26, 2019 9:06 am
I've been doing an outside event for the past six years every summer. Every Thursday night in the month of June and July 4th. Attendance can range from 300-500. But, the closest anyone sits is about 60 feet from the stage. So, it has to cover a large area of people spread out.

Another event I've done a few times is a local bar that has a big party in their parking lot. Smaller area to cover, but twice as many people.

Biggest inside event was in our local Civic Center. Coverage was good about halfway back through the room, then its fell off pretty quick - but, it's a really big room.

I know my limitations and won't try to do an event that I can't do properly.

I've turned down shows where I didn't feel that I could handle the input count or the load in/out was too hard.

My rig sits nicely between the big boys with line arrays and the local guys who have a system for their band with two subs holding up two tops.
I watched a few of your YouTube vids. I keep trying to "imagine" what sort of results to expect. Thanks for the rundown Bruce. I've just got to get some cabs built.
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#133 Post by Charles Jenkinson »

I thought you were all over this one Seth....? :D
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#134 Post by Seth »

Right? More like all over the place. :noob:

Back and forth, back and forth. I think I've made up my mind to do the 24" wide T48's and build them with the chamber reducers for added sensitivity above 40Hz with the Delta 12LFA's. Utilizing the chamber reducers also keeps the option open to upgrade to any of the other recommended drivers if the need arises. FWIW, the Delta 12LFA isn't "on the list" of recommended drivers for the T48 and is ever-so-slightly out of spec. However, it's on the list for the T39 and still outside the suggested parameters there too. Pretty sure it'll cover my needs.

Anyway, I'm now humming and hawing over which plywood to use. I'd love to choose a type that's light weight, if possible. But also, not too outrageously priced. I'd likely be willing to spend an extra $10-15 a sheet to trim 10-20 pounds off a cab. I've been finding some pretty interesting reads on the subject. I didn't know there was such a thing as Balsa Ply. I came across one source that mentioned a product called ApplePly was 35 pounds per sheet ( http://theplywood.com/weight ), but haven't been able to verify that against any other source. One product called poplite and another also claiming to be light weight don't even bother to quote a weight for their "light weight plywood". Q; How much does it weigh? A; It's light weight. Genius's :roll:

So, that's where it's at. So far, looks like a poplar is about 8 pounds less per 4x8 sheet than Baltic Birch and I should be able to get it locally. Haven't checked local prices yet. There's a decent lumber yard nearby. I'll likely give them a visit early next week, see what they can get. I put the cut dimensions in a cut optimization calculator and it looks like I should be able to get all 4 T48's out of 8 sheets. Not too bad.
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#135 Post by Bill Fitzmaurice »

Poplar is a good choice, balsa is not, assuming you're not adding a carbon fiber skin to it. Poplar is considered a junk wood, because it often has green streaks through it that make it unsuited for a natural finish. But it's strong and light, and when there are 7 plies or more in 1/2" thickness it's also very stiff.

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