Recommended DSP?

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UNDERTONE · #1 Post by **UNDERTONE** » Fri May 18, 2007 10:13 pm

if you you recommend just one piece of equipment for EQing and processing, including a method of testing the settings, what would it be? if the budget was limited to 300, would you say wait till i could spend more? suggestions please!

currently i have 2 T48s and almost 2 OTop12*2s!

LelandCrooks · #2 Post by **LelandCrooks** » Fri May 18, 2007 10:23 pm

DEQ2496

jeffbabcock · #3 Post by **jeffbabcock** » Mon May 28, 2007 3:13 pm

Save a bit more and get a Peavey VSX26. Basically similar to the DBX Driverack 260 in terms of features, but better interface and less expensive.

hclague · #4 Post by **hclague** » Wed May 30, 2007 4:21 pm

If the budget is $300 and your looking for a single piece, the only choice i can think of is the DCX2496. DEQ2496 does not do crossover filters.

Hal

DAVID_L_PERRY · #5 Post by **DAVID_L_PERRY** » Thu May 31, 2007 3:55 am

LelandCrooks wrote:DEQ2496

+1 Far better interface than the DBX PA, more in/outs than both the Peavey and DBX PA (but no 31band graphic)

Three Inn's allows you to run your PA stereo and also use Aux fed subs.

In the UK the Peavey and DBX units cost about £400-480, the Behringer about £190

Very good value for money....and it works well.

Dave

bgavin · #6 Post by **bgavin** » Thu May 31, 2007 7:49 am

Most folks get a nasty taste in their mouths when hearing "Behringer". The company has a reputation for intellectual property theft on a grand scale, and crappy quality.

I see many here endorse the DEQ2496. What makes this box singularly different from all the rest of the Behringer line?

LelandCrooks · #7 Post by **LelandCrooks** » Thu May 31, 2007 8:04 am

It works. It works well. It sounds good. And yes, their business practices leave a lot to be desired. The only thing I'd buy from them is the signal processing stuff. I bought mine after a lot of research. If I did this for a living it would not have been in the running. From what I've read around the internet it's pretty much whips the basic driverack model though.

I'd wager that every b basher shops at WalMart. Having been in competition with them, and knowing suppliers behind the scenes, they make Behringer look like pikers. So choose your poison, chinese theft of ip, or german theft of ip.

DAVID_L_PERRY · #8 Post by **DAVID_L_PERRY** » Thu May 31, 2007 9:43 am

Got confused between the DCX2496....(crossover) and DEQ2496...(graphic) on my previous post...

Having said that, the DEQ2496 is also a superb digital graphic....far better than the older 8024 (I have that in my rehearsal rig).

This graphic replaced a DBX graphic that went faulty
The DCX2496 replaced my DBX analogue crossover

Dave

mchildree · #9 Post by **mchildree** » Thu May 31, 2007 1:39 pm

So no one here has experienced the reliability issues that seem to be common with these Behringer units?

Mark Coward · #10 Post by **Mark Coward** » Thu May 31, 2007 7:32 pm

mchildree wrote:So no one here has experienced the reliability issues that seem to be common with these Behringer units?

I haven't experienced any issues with either the DCX or DEQ, nor have I heard of anyone who has. On the other hand, I know of several folks using the analog Behringer crossovers who had problems.

DAVID_L_PERRY · #11 Post by **DAVID_L_PERRY** » Fri Jun 01, 2007 3:10 am

mchildree wrote:So no one here has experienced the reliability issues that seem to be common with these Behringer units?

The early DCX units had a common fault that caused a 'frying bacon sound'. I think it was to do with part of the circuit board contacting the outer case, and the fix was simply to place insulation between the two componenets....Other than that I am not aware of any common faults on either of these two units.

Dave

UNDERTONE · #12 Post by **UNDERTONE** » Tue Jun 05, 2007 6:59 am

many thanks to you all; i decided to go with the DEQ 2496, it arrived yesterday and i will be playing around with it tonight. i'll post my findings.

eweitzman · #13 Post by **eweitzman** » Sun Jul 01, 2007 5:12 am

A general question about using a parametric equalizer for subwoofer EQ. Won't the lowest filter in the equalizer (20Hz typically) be a parametric filter instead of a shelving filter and cause really bad phase distortion going below 20Hz?

- Eric

Sun Jul 01, 2007 8:21 am

eweitzman wrote:A general question about using a parametric equalizer for subwoofer EQ. Won't the lowest filter in the equalizer (20Hz typically) be a parametric filter instead of a shelving filter and cause really bad phase distortion going below 20Hz?

- Eric

I have no idea, but in any event with wavelengths in excess of fifty feet phase is moot.

eweitzman · #15 Post by **eweitzman** » Sun Jul 01, 2007 12:30 pm

I thought one argument for having very low extension even if below musical content was that the phase can be made more linear at the low end. This would result in less group delay distortion.

A big dip in the frequency response from a parametric filter boosting at 20Hz but dropping below that would cause very non-linear phase and result in group delay distortion at 20Hz and below. Perhaps I'm laboring under an audiophool illusion on this point...

- Eric