chrisj360 wrote:Escape: If you can describe it, what was it about the sound that evening that made you consider building a pair of titans rather than just another pair of tuba's? Was it just not loud enough or mainly just better pack space for transport in regards to spl? Etc?
Where do I start??!! The plan was always to build several different subs, so that I could hear what the difference between plans was. This might have been a bit ambitious (and wasteful), but I always built the T30s knowing that I'd be building a 2nd rig somewhere down the line. The original plan was actually for
3 rigs
#1=T30+OT12 (small portable rig - DONE); #2=T48+DR250 (loud rig); #3=T60+DR280 or 300 (club install type rig). Rigs #2&3 have now been combined into the T48 or T60 and DR250s (I can always add in the larger DRs later on - I
will build some 300s one day
). The reason why I wanted to build the T48 was to find out how loud those are and I didn't need a reason for the T60... it was that T60 video from Infracousic that first made me type 'Bill Fitzmaurice' into google all those months ago
Then about a two weeks ago, I was looking at SPL charts and realizing that the T48 would actually be louder than the T60s. I therefore started to question whether I actually needed that extension. This had nothing to do with what I heard on the night... it was just a trick of timing that I was contemplating T48s whilst commenting on my T30s first performance here. Getting rig #1 out meant that it was working, completed, done. My thoughts therefore have turned to considering my next move (actually they've already done that - DR250s are next, but I'm thinking several moves ahead like a chess player!)
chrisj360 wrote:I am curious mainly because even though I am super stoked on how my 28" tuba's came out and sound, I keep wondering if I should have built the titans instead. I've been having an internal debate for awhile now (see
http://billfitzmaurice.info/forum/viewt ... =1&t=21441 ) about either ordering the titan plans and building a pair or just building another pair of tubas.
I'm with you on that one... I'm having the exact same mental discussion!
chrisj360 wrote:I love how clean and low the tubas go and initially I wanted to go for clean full bass, rather than just loud. But I've been to a few other shows recently where it just seems like the audience wants stupid loud, regardless of the hearing damage they are being subjected to.
And that's EXACTLY the reason why I was thinking T48! The audience cares for loud far more than it does for extension. We're on the same page here (in fact we're probably on the same letter of the same sentence of the same paragraph).
chrisj360 wrote:My intentions aren't to hijack the thread...
Don't worry, I think it had died anyway - you've brought it back to life!
chrisj360 wrote:...or start another tuba vs titan debate. I would just really appreciate some input from another fellow tuba builder (non-T60 because it's not fair to compare the T30 to a T60). I know that don and a few other tuba builders are still super happy with their systems, as I am but it seems that we both dj more similar music. But with the ratio of titan to tuba builders (once again non T60), I am curious if I should have built the titans.
I know that everyone just says that if you are playing dance music you should use Tubas - and if you want it louder, just build twice as many... but doubling up 4 subs to 8 means a LOT of packspace... if I was to build 4 Titans instead, it would still be the same amount of work (4 subs), but I wouldn't need a lorry to move them! In your case you could build 2 Tubas, or get the same output by building 2 Titans - either way it's 2 cabs to build
but if you wanted to extend it after that, it would be a whole lot easier building another 2 Titans (if you went that route), than another 4 Tubas. And the difference between T30 and T48 extension is only 5Hz... that's not a massive amount of bass to lose.
I have no answers, only my musings which I have put down here so that we can compare notes (and maybe get some input from others). Either way, I'm sure that you will be happy with the result, but I'd love to have the 3 subs that I have mentioned in this thread to audition and actually hear the difference, rather than trying to extrapolate out what they sound like from their SPL charts.
chrisj360 wrote:One thought though, when I was building my tubas I had some issues with rubbing on the baffle that lead me to repeatedly removing the driver, sanding, remounting, checking and then starting the process over again. After some time, a number of the holes for driver recex screws became stripped out so be careful with how many times you would potentially swap out your drivers between the different cabinets. I don't know if it was just user error on my part but wanted to share my experience.
My tee-nuts are mounted solidly... I made sure of this and took extra time to get it right, as I was assuming even at that early stage that I would be removing drivers and swapping them between cabs.
chrisj360 wrote:I very much remember that game you based your handle on. My favorite was pitfall and qbert as a kid.
Qbert... yeah!
Who knew he'd grow up to become such a great scratch DJ. I guess it was those whirly disks that took you back to the top that got him interested!
chrisj360 wrote:Sorry for the long winded post, I didn't mean for it get this big.
We're cut from the same cloth, methinks... I start with my post just wanting to make a simple point, but by the time I hit 'Submit', it has turned into a novel (see this post for an example!). Please don't apologize, long posts are good and keeps me (and others
) entertained for longer whilst skiving off work.
I'm guessing that even though they are more sensitive, you wouldn't want to put much power through these to get to Lab12/3012 sort of SPLs! Can anybody clarify please. thx
