Jack 12's and a T60 Outside (open garage)

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Jack 12's and a T60 Outside (open garage)

#1 Post by MissileCrisis »

Hey so I supplied sound to a party that was operating out of a half enclosed garage and it was a lot of fun, for the first ~1 1/2 hours. Music started at about 9 P.M. and people started really showing up at 9:45-10. Halloween themed and everyone had awesome costumes on. I had 2 hours notice on this party so things were a bit rushed getting to the "gypsy house". Their property is huge and sound leakage wasn't really an issue, the issue was the neighbor 4 houses down doesn't like college kids and drove past and heard something going on (called it in). Regardless, I'd like to talk about the sound a little.

Jack 12's sounded pretty darn good to me, on the same level as the typical concert, and I never went above -10 dB with them (amp setting, so realistically each jack had another 6 dB that wasn't even tapped into. Seeing as we were SUDO outside I believe it is the cleanest sound I've heard out of those speakers although we still had a fair deal of house shake going on even with the sub biased towards away from the windows/house. The only problem I was having was it would have been nice to have 2 subs or most likely 4. It was a tiny crowd/space compared to what you guys talk about (around 30 on dancefloor, while rest were inside drinking 20ft x35 ft carport). I got several compliments on the sound. Apparently I got a lot of people into the music more than usual and I definitely had a lot of fun.

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Jack's HP'ed at 80, EQ inverting the response curve as much as possible given the DCX 2496, I was able to get 5 stable bands of EQ for each jack, never shut it down once even at 20% free memory.
T60 HP'ed at 26 Hz 48 dB L/R LP at 100 Hz I think (I know overlap is bad usually but it sounded a little better that way than "matching crossovers")

The Bass was intense within about 5 feet of the sub and then became less awesome the farther you go out (no distortion of course so 2x distance = -6 dB) I also think that it may have been better instead of pointing the sub up (Garage had a roof) it may have been helpful to point it at the dancefloor to get another 2-3 feet of reach (meaning physical distance, I know subs are omnidirectional). Seeing as it wasn't enclosed i didn't get any boundary loading but even so it sounded pretty good.

Side note:
Last weekend I was off-roading in my Ford focus wagon and well lets just say I killed the engine by taking up water in a stream crossing. Therefore I am carless indefinitely :(.
Next vehicle I get will be a truck as I was able to fill an entire bed of a medium sized truck with just my speakers/ stands/amp rack.
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#2 Post by Scott Brochu »

Awesome! :clap: Glad they worked out good. :loler:
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#3 Post by DJPhatman »

I'm happy the party went well. Use your system how it sounds best to you.

As for the side-note: :slap: :bash: :slap: :bash: :slap: :bash:

What would possess you to take a FORD, let alone a Focus station wagon, off-roading? They aren't called "Found On Road Dead for nothing!
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#4 Post by biggerrigger »

DJPhatman wrote:I'm happy the party went well. Use your system how it sounds best to you.

As for the side-note: :slap: :bash: :slap: :bash: :slap: :bash:

What would possess you to take a FORD, let alone a Focus station wagon, off-roading? They aren't called "Found On Road Dead for nothing!
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#5 Post by MissileCrisis »

Good thing I was smart enough to film it happen. If you want to see me drive into a river and get stuck check out my youtube channel.

Now, back to the music shall we :).
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2 x TLAH
1 Titan 39 (lab 12, 15 inch)
1 Tuba 60 (lab 12, 20 inch)
SLA Center
2 x Mini MLTP subwoofers
1 x 212 TH (custom)
2 x Mini-Karlsonators
Owned, but not built
2 x Jack 12 (2512, melded)

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#6 Post by MissileCrisis »

I forgot to mention, it was a costume party, and when the (actual) sheriff's showed up everyone thought they were just dressed up. We then saw them do the turn it down knob motion with their hands and they we were like.... :cop: . It was a good hour of music and there was very little if any sound bleed (large property, only 1 T60). Neighbors suck.
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2 x TLAH
1 Titan 39 (lab 12, 15 inch)
1 Tuba 60 (lab 12, 20 inch)
SLA Center
2 x Mini MLTP subwoofers
1 x 212 TH (custom)
2 x Mini-Karlsonators
Owned, but not built
2 x Jack 12 (2512, melded)

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#7 Post by DJPhatman »

MissileCrisis wrote:Good thing I was smart enough to film it happen. If you want to see me drive into a river and get stuck check out my youtube channel.

Now, back to the music shall we :).

OH, PLEASE link your channel!
biggerrigger wrote:Bravo DJ Bravo :mrgreen:
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#8 Post by Gauss »

I think you mean "Found Off-Road Dead".

But in the mean time, Ford is making good looking cars and digging itself out of debt while GM is taking handouts to survive.
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#9 Post by Bruce Weldy »

Gauss wrote:I think you mean "Found Off-Road Dead".

And don't forget....

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#10 Post by David Raehn »

Found
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Reservation
Dump

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#11 Post by MissileCrisis »

Built
2 x TLAH
1 Titan 39 (lab 12, 15 inch)
1 Tuba 60 (lab 12, 20 inch)
SLA Center
2 x Mini MLTP subwoofers
1 x 212 TH (custom)
2 x Mini-Karlsonators
Owned, but not built
2 x Jack 12 (2512, melded)

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#12 Post by DJPhatman »

MissileCrisis wrote:Car taking on water:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mlzotOO8NlI
Set to private. :roll:
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#13 Post by MissileCrisis »

DJPhatman wrote:
MissileCrisis wrote:Car taking on water:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mlzotOO8NlI
Set to private. :roll:
Sorry, I'm a Youtube noob, just changed it to unlisted.
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2 x TLAH
1 Titan 39 (lab 12, 15 inch)
1 Tuba 60 (lab 12, 20 inch)
SLA Center
2 x Mini MLTP subwoofers
1 x 212 TH (custom)
2 x Mini-Karlsonators
Owned, but not built
2 x Jack 12 (2512, melded)

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#14 Post by Tom Smit »

Friggin' Old Recycled Datsun
is what was told to me many years ago.
One of my vehicles is one.


(The Focus should have been run at a crawl so that nothing would have happened) :(
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#15 Post by frpcraig »

Don't diss the Datsuns I've got a 240Z!

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