Any sudgestions for a drum kit?

[Poy Azarcon]

Hello every one, my name is poy from Las Vegas, this past 6 months i volunteer to the church that i been with since nobody handling and taking care of the system, so any of my sudgestions they listen, so i ask for digital board this past Sunday and the board members of the church agreed so they will purchase the X32 before Christmas, now my problem is I was hoping before the digital board come, I want the whole band to be mic, since i started with them the drum set don't have a mic, i want to mic the drum set, so I wanna know or any sudgestions for a praise and worship band, They ask me and i can only sudgest the CAD drum kits for it is only less than $200 on eBay but with out the mic stands and cables...any sudgestions a bang for a buck and input are very much appreciated...

Thanks every one in advance,
Poy

[Scott Brochu]

IMHO CAD is very reasonable priced. Just pick up the claws that clip on the rims.
Another one that I've used is the Audix D series mics. Very good.
There is alot of others AKG and more that I can't put my finger on.
These come with the clips;
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Audix-DP5-A-Fiv ... 43bfd1b6e6

[camrynekai]

Been a fan of these little guys for quite some time now Sennheiser E604

[DJPhatman]

Poy, I think you should present your sound "intentions" to the financial decision makers of your church, and ask for a maximum budget to spend. One of your first purchases should be some sort of RTA software or hardware that will help fix building acoustic anomalies and will RT-60.

Are you asking for a new digital desk to replace an older digital or analog desk? What, if any, are the issues for the older desk? Who will be in control of the settings? What are the congregational needs/wants? Are you wanting to mic the entire drum set, or will a kick drum and a set of overheads suffice? Or, would the money be better spent on an E-drum kit? Think about what is most important, and what can wait.

[Poy Azarcon]

Thank Scott! that audix mic sound interesting, the youth ministry just ordered the CAD pro 7 kit from musicianfriend with mic cables and a stand.

Camry! I like that sennheiser, i followed your build trade man im loving the idea having 4 speakers aside @ 2ohm on your crown XTI 6000 for your larger gigs, but im thinking of T39 instead with crest pro 9200 and OT12 with crest pro8200, in the near future, I mainly using it 50% dj 50% for live band and corporate events... What do you think?


DJPhatman! Yes i did present to them but they are a little tight financially, they took it from the youth music ministry to spend for the x32, right now I'm using this audio tool apps from iPad to RTA the system, so far the system are two EV Force dual 15 main speakers, 1 Samson power amp, dbx dual 31 band eq and a Behringer sx2442fx mixer with 2 powered JBL 15" for floor monitor. i am hoping i can convince them building BFM system for the church, right now il just enjoy what we have until time come financially presents it self to replace the whole system... At the moment I'm the only volunteer controlling the system for the past few months, and yes i ask for the digital since they don't have any outboards processor and effects, this will be a learning process on my part as well while helping improve the church system....

[camrynekai]

I cant speak for the pro 9200...XTI6000/now6002 is basically a stripped down I-Tech6000...which is a whole different amp line then the XTI 2002&4002(which im NOT a fan of) The XTI6000 is very resilient to poor and sagging AC which is priceless. Its a very efficient amp, where they use back EMF to recharge power supply caps instead of shunting to ground or opposite rail creating heat. Have had it for about 4years and it has yet not to deliver....I know its a bit of over kill...but not really when you get out in the real world. Having the larger then needed amp with its green technology allows me to deliver proper voltage to my boxes even with as low as 108VAC in. Running a group of 4 24" T48 V plated and cables yields about 3.1ohm impedance load, if i un V plate and stand 4 T48's upright it drastically drops to as low as 2.4 ohm impedance load. The .7ohm is HUGE relief on your amp FWIW.

[Grant Bunter]

Running a group of 4 24" T48 V plated and cables yields about 3.1ohm impedance load, if i un V plate and stand 4 T48's upright it drastically drops to as low as 2.4 ohm impedance load. The .7ohm is HUGE relief on your amp FWIW.

Say what?
Where did you find this info?
I've not ever seen it mentioned that the manner in which you set up influences impedance...

[Bruce Weldy]

Does the v-plate extending the horn raise impedance?

[camrynekai]

I'm not sure...that ? would be best answered by Bill. I use the woofer testerII to do my measurements and check for chamber leaks. Craziest thing is to do a impedance sweep of one cab while another is side by side with it(not hooked up)...OMG makes the sweep look like the access cover is off.

[LelandCrooks]

Does the v-plate extending the horn raise impedance?

No.

[Bruce Weldy]

Does the v-plate extending the horn raise impedance?

No.

hmmm.....wonder what would cause those readings?

[camrynekai]

Would love to know too. On one of my hard drives I have all 14 of my T48's sweeps saved and also have charts showing 2 and 4 T48's up-right and V plated, also saved the files showing the cab with the access cover off, 1 bolt missing from the driver, and the file with 2 T48's side by side with one unhooked. Also have all 14 3015's sweeps in free space after break-in, along with 4 15" Low Riders Free space only. At one point I wanted to become a authorized builder and wanted to have this data as a tool for performance checks...not only for the drivers I was purchasing but for the cabs I was building. You might just be suprized on how affected a T48 impedance sweep can be by surrounding objects ie. other T48's, truck or a wall.

[camrynekai]

My apologies to the OP for the hyjack

[Poy Azarcon]

Camrynekai wrote:

My apologies to the OP for the hyjack...


It's all good for me, I needed more knowledgeable people like you and bill and the rest of the good people to learn more in all aspect of pro sound, since I'm going that route pretty soon, with this i'm very great full to all of you who shared your experience and tons of knowledge...

Poy