4- Dr250's
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4- Dr250's
I finally finished my last pair of 250's, and played all four today. All that I can say is amazing. What four sound like compared to 2 is undescribeable. The sound is effortless at insane levels and people that were passing by were grabbing there chest and smiling with an astonished look on their face. I brought 4 T-48's, but i didn't unload 2 of them because of the weather. I know there are some sceptics out there, but with four 250's and 2 T-48's, the port-o-let walls were physically rattling at 150ft. Guys, I am not pulling your leg, I cant say enough about using four 250's, Even at small events, the sound is so large, I will never use 2 again.
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It's simply crazy the way these speakers combine. It's not that they are louder, they are cleaner, sharper, and have much more impact. I dont know if you have ever heard Clarence frogman Carters " aint got no home" but when he sings in his frogman voice, I was breathless. The definition is truly wonderful.
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Welcome to the club
I know it's line array physics in action, but the difference is astounding.
Even for the small gigs I always take 4. You can always turn it down.

I know it's line array physics in action, but the difference is astounding.
Even for the small gigs I always take 4. You can always turn it down.
If it's too loud, you're even older than me! Like me.
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the "2 250s per side Club" is adding more members.
Even as often as folks have raved about the remarkable sound change one gets from going from one to two 250s per side I'm not surprised when a post raves about the improvement- FOLKS, IT MUST BE HEARD TO BE BELIEVED!
I've got two per side (love the sound change) - Bill, does adding a third 250
per side make for as drastic sound difference as going from one to two per side?
I've got two per side (love the sound change) - Bill, does adding a third 250
per side make for as drastic sound difference as going from one to two per side?
- Dave Non-Zero
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Does the drastic improvement happen when using the OT12s in multiples too? I really want to build a gaggle of them coz i cant face building 3 more dr250s at the moment!
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Built and/or own:
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2 x DR280
Built and/or own:
8 x T48 24" 3015LF
6 x DR280
2 x DR250 old style beta10
2 x T36s 20" delta15L
1 x TAT
1 x dual Lab12 30" T60
In Progress:
2 x DR280
- Bill Fitzmaurice
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Re: the "2 250s per side Club" is adding more memb
Not as drastic, since doubling cabs lowers the line array function by an octave, while less than a doubling doesn't do as much. But it does keep getting better.joeltc wrote:I've got two per side (love the sound change) - Bill, does adding a third 250
per side make for as drastic sound difference as going from one to two per side?
Yes, but only if you build them with full length tweeter arays, so be sure that's how you build them for vertical arraying.Does the drastic improvement happen when using the OT12s in multiples too?
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Re: the "2 250s per side Club" is adding more memb
So what is the approx cutoff of the coupling, and does going to stack of 4Bill Fitzmaurice wrote: Not as drastic, since doubling cabs lowers the line array function by an octave, while less than a doubling doesn't do as much. But it does keep getting better.

I'm sure there's a point of diminishing returns, just like anything else.
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Re: the "2 250s per side Club" is adding more memb
Precisely what a line array does (it's called the nearfield condition)depends not only on the array height but also how far away from it you're standing, so the calcs are pretty complicated. But what it does drops by an octave with each doubling of the array height, and how far out the effect extends doubles with each doubling of the array height. There is no practical limit to how high making the array is of benefit, but with subs it is impractical to try. At 100 Hz the line has to be at least 35 feet high to work as a line source at all.LelandCrooks wrote: So what is the approx cutoff of the coupling, and does going to stack of 4drop it by an octave again?