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100K watts of PK subs @ Excision Raleigh

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I recently got a chance to catch Excision at a local 1500 person venue. One of the major sellers for me was the fact that he was bringing "100k watts in PK subwoofers" which would be about 40 CX800s (http://www.pksound.ca/wp-content/upload ... woofer.pdf) ... :chainsaw:

As I walked into the the opener Lucky Date playing, I was initially unimpressed, but I didnt pass judgement as I KNEW they were saving the stack for the headliner. within 5 minutes of the opener leaving the stage they lowered the 25 foot curtain to reveal excisions XVISION glorified booth, which was fairly cool. Excision took his place at the top of the mountain, and let everyone in the crowd get a taste of an 1/8 note LFO'd sine wave that I believe was about 55 hz (A1, as I know for the a fact that the song played next was in the key of Aminor). Everyone without earplugs on the floor was pretty much knocked down in the first 3 seconds (not me I came protected :slap: ). To say the least, It was loud, suck the air out of your lungs loud. After the first bass test I was pretty much done though. Midrange was SLATHERED in mud, in fact if it wasnt for the fact that Excision was playing songs I could identify by bassline alone, I couldnt tell you waht he played. I enjoyed a bass bath for about 30 minutes then made my way to the stoge smoking patio. Even from outside I was fairly concerned about the structural stability of the venue.

It was fun to hear the 35-55 hz range louder than I ever had before. I wish it wasnt paired with a lackluster mid solution, but they were going for shock value, and they succeeded. I hope to catch him again, but I'll think twice about paying full price on the ticket, as although the bass was big, overall SQ suffered. Hope you guys enjoyed my account and I'll leave you with a question: What would you do with 100k Watts, and where would you set your rig up?
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2x Tuba 30s delta12lf loaded (gone)
4x Otop12 d2512 loaded
8x t48s (18, 18, 24, 24, 30, 30) 3015lf loaded
2x AT (1 mcm, 1 gto 804)
2x SLA Pro (dayton pa6, 6 goldwood piezo loaded)
1x bastard XF208

2x OT212 (delta pro 450a loaded, eminence psd)

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#2 Post by LelandCrooks »

sine143 wrote: What would you do with 100k Watts
Power my house.
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90kg each :noob:
was it full of shirtless bros? did he play Swagga with 15 rewinds?

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bitSmasher wrote:90kg each :noob:
was it full of shirtless bros? did he play Swagga with 15 rewinds?
:lol:
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#5 Post by BrentEvans »

LelandCrooks wrote:
sine143 wrote: What would you do with 100k Watts
Power my house.
That's some house, man.
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#6 Post by Bill Fitzmaurice »

100Kw doesn't mean all that much unless you're a kiddie, and then only so you can advertise "100Kw!" to draw the kiddies in like flies to shit, which is no coincidence, as that's the only thing which that much power with that small a room could sound like. :noob:
Most pro-touring sound companies playing to 10,000 seats only run half that.

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#7 Post by sine143 »

bitSmasher wrote:90kg each :noob:
was it full of shirtless bros? did he play Swagga with 15 rewinds?

nah actually no swagga at all. after 2 years of it being banned from dj sets I kinda wanted to hear it again... that 90 hz would have made people puke.

like I said, it was overkill, so much so that it negatively affected the show.
Built:
2x Tuba 30s delta12lf loaded (gone)
4x Otop12 d2512 loaded
8x t48s (18, 18, 24, 24, 30, 30) 3015lf loaded
2x AT (1 mcm, 1 gto 804)
2x SLA Pro (dayton pa6, 6 goldwood piezo loaded)
1x bastard XF208

2x OT212 (delta pro 450a loaded, eminence psd)

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#8 Post by Alien »

Bill Fitzmaurice wrote:100Kw doesn't mean all that much unless you're a kiddie, and then only so you can advertise "100Kw!" to draw the kiddies in like flies to shit, which is no coincidence, as that's the only thing which that much power with that small a room could sound like. :noob:
Most pro-touring sound companies playing to 10,000 seats only run half that.
+ the 1

Most of the under-25 crowd can't believe that my current rig runs around 1kW flat out (rarely in other words) and that I get my bass SPL from good placement. Can't wait to see their faces when I get my T39's done :twisted:

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#9 Post by BumpyJ »

I was in PK's shop about a month ago here in Calgary AB just out of curiosity as they have been deemed the go to sound company for Bass and their system is making it onto some bigger named artists riders. I wanted to have a look at some of their cabs but they were not open to public viewing at that time as they were designing something new and groundbreaking in the shop. I think it may have something to do with individual cab dsp control and limiting... I think.. I heard at the last Shambhala festival in nelson BC they lost 36 Lab 12 drivers due to a noob forgetting to set the hp on the stack of what looked like a modified LABhorn's x 20+ cabs. Can see the use for more rigid control over the system doing that type of duty.

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Bill Fitzmaurice wrote:100Kw doesn't mean all that much unless you're a kiddie, and then only so you can advertise "100Kw!" to draw the kiddies in like flies to shit, which is no coincidence, as that's the only thing which that much power with that small a room could sound like. :noob:
Most pro-touring sound companies playing to 10,000 seats only run half that.
I call it "Detroit Watts." The popular local companies have taken to this marketing.

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#11 Post by 88h88 »

I'd like to experience a full on PK sound system simply because it sounds stupid as hell. All those drivers must move a silly amount of air...
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Re: 100K watts of PK subs @ Excision Raleigh

#12 Post by Gregory East »

@ 2 drivers / kW say, that's 50 dual loaded T60's, stack 5 high and 10 wide, it's what 3m high and 6 m wide? Stand well back or be literally pulverized???
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#13 Post by sine143 »

or 80+ 18 inch drivers, which is what was in the building that day. was 25 feet from the stack, literally saw people hit the floor on the first track.
Built:
2x Tuba 30s delta12lf loaded (gone)
4x Otop12 d2512 loaded
8x t48s (18, 18, 24, 24, 30, 30) 3015lf loaded
2x AT (1 mcm, 1 gto 804)
2x SLA Pro (dayton pa6, 6 goldwood piezo loaded)
1x bastard XF208

2x OT212 (delta pro 450a loaded, eminence psd)

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Re: 100K watts of PK subs @ Excision Raleigh

#14 Post by bassmonster »

sine143 wrote:or 80+ 18 inch drivers, which is what was in the building that day. was 25 feet from the stack, literally saw people hit the floor on the first track.
Is that even legal?

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#15 Post by sine143 »

stack of subs also weighs in about 4k kilos....
Built:
2x Tuba 30s delta12lf loaded (gone)
4x Otop12 d2512 loaded
8x t48s (18, 18, 24, 24, 30, 30) 3015lf loaded
2x AT (1 mcm, 1 gto 804)
2x SLA Pro (dayton pa6, 6 goldwood piezo loaded)
1x bastard XF208

2x OT212 (delta pro 450a loaded, eminence psd)

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