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First gig with a dual lab12 T60
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The "rules" say never mix sub designs, yet I've seen a couple of ppl doing it, how does it work?
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Re: First gig with a dual lab12 T60
The rule is never mix sub designs in the same band pass. If you are giving them different frequencies, that's ok.osse wrote:The "rules" say never mix sub designs, yet I've seen a couple of ppl doing it, how does it work?
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Re: First gig with a dual lab12 T60
Although I haven't seen any reason to do it yet. Besides just haveing massive stacks for looks.Chris_Allen wrote:The rule is never mix sub designs in the same band pass. If you are giving them different frequencies, that's ok.osse wrote:The "rules" say never mix sub designs, yet I've seen a couple of ppl doing it, how does it work?
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Re: First gig with a dual lab12 T60
Never mix any cabs or even drivers in the same pass band. There's nothing to be gained in so doing, while their different phase and time responses can give very poor results.Chris_Allen wrote:The rule is never mix sub designs in the same band pass. If you are giving them different frequencies, that's ok.osse wrote:The "rules" say never mix sub designs, yet I've seen a couple of ppl doing it, how does it work?
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Re: First gig with a dual lab12 T60
Hang on a minute. Are you saying 3015LF / Lab15 and lab12 3012LF mixed sets are just lucky allowable exceptions to the rule?Bill Fitzmaurice wrote:Never mix any cabs or even drivers in the same pass band. There's nothing to be gained in so doing, while their different phase and time responses can give very poor results.
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Re: First gig with a dual lab12 T60
+1 Will my T30 3012 LF's play well with my soon to be done T30 Lab 12's?Gregory East wrote:Hang on a minute. Are you saying 3015LF / Lab15 and lab12 3012LF mixed sets are just lucky allowable exceptions to the rule?Bill Fitzmaurice wrote:Never mix any cabs or even drivers in the same pass band. There's nothing to be gained in so doing, while their different phase and time responses can give very poor results.
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Two 18" Tuba 30's 3012 LF
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Two OmniTop 12's DL 2512 (Melded Array)
Presonus Studio One DAW
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Re: First gig with a dual lab12 T60
Yes, because the horn pathway is the same length, so phase response is the same.doncolga wrote:Will my T30 3012 LF's play well with my soon to be done T30 Lab 12's?
Badly.The "rules" say never mix sub designs, yet I've seen a couple of ppl doing it, how does it work?
Re: First gig with a dual lab12 T60
Awesome...I'll proceed along merrily.Bill Fitzmaurice wrote:Yes, because the horn pathway is the same length, so phase response is the same.doncolga wrote:Will my T30 3012 LF's play well with my soon to be done T30 Lab 12's?Badly.The "rules" say never mix sub designs, yet I've seen a couple of ppl doing it, how does it work?
Donny Collins
Built:
Two 18" Tuba 30's 3012 LF
Two 26" Tuba 30's Lab 12
Two OmniTop 12's DL 2512 (Melded Array)
Presonus Studio One DAW
Harrison Consoles MixBus 32C DAW
Built:
Two 18" Tuba 30's 3012 LF
Two 26" Tuba 30's Lab 12
Two OmniTop 12's DL 2512 (Melded Array)
Presonus Studio One DAW
Harrison Consoles MixBus 32C DAW
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Re: First gig with a dual lab12 T60
i think the people that do it just do it to be rebellious!Bill Fitzmaurice wrote:Yes, because the horn pathway is the same length, so phase response is the same.doncolga wrote:Will my T30 3012 LF's play well with my soon to be done T30 Lab 12's?Badly.The "rules" say never mix sub designs, yet I've seen a couple of ppl doing it, how does it work?
Before Fitzmaurice, big bass could only be had with just a hook and a nightcrawler.
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Re: First gig with a dual lab12 T60
I'm thinking two t60 slims v-plated with minor woodworking additions AS the bed.
Slightly OT; could two subs in a separate pass band be used to weed out room modes? I've had that rolling around in my head as an option for fixing a bad room, and it seems like with proper planning it would work, but what the hell do I know.
Slightly OT; could two subs in a separate pass band be used to weed out room modes? I've had that rolling around in my head as an option for fixing a bad room, and it seems like with proper planning it would work, but what the hell do I know.
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Re: First gig with a dual lab12 T60
Dave, can 1 person move that with casters on the other side? I'm all about saving wood, and if I don't have to split it I'm all for it!
Before Fitzmaurice, big bass could only be had with just a hook and a nightcrawler.
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Built
2 19" T60s
1 30" T39
3 Autotubas with GTO804
Bought
2 Dr250s
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Built
2 19" T60s
1 30" T39
3 Autotubas with GTO804
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Re: First gig with a dual lab12 T60
We haven't done any of the T60212 like Dave but the 27" 15 version is incredibly light and easy for one person to move in/out, up/down, provided the handles are on all corners as they should be. Use Lelands heavy recessed casters, very nice.DJ Higgumz wrote:Dave, can 1 person move that with casters on the other side? I'm all about saving wood, and if I don't have to split it I'm all for it!
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Re: First gig with a dual lab12 T60
Still hoping someone will chime in that uses the dual loaded, hey drey have you ever ran into a door you couldn't fit through?Drey Chennells wrote:We haven't done any of the T60212 like Dave but the 27" 15 version is incredibly light and easy for one person to move in/out, up/down, provided the handles are on all corners as they should be. Use Lelands heavy recessed casters, very nice.DJ Higgumz wrote:Dave, can 1 person move that with casters on the other side? I'm all about saving wood, and if I don't have to split it I'm all for it!
Before Fitzmaurice, big bass could only be had with just a hook and a nightcrawler.
Building
4 30" T60s
Built
2 19" T60s
1 30" T39
3 Autotubas with GTO804
Bought
2 Dr250s
Building
4 30" T60s
Built
2 19" T60s
1 30" T39
3 Autotubas with GTO804
Bought
2 Dr250s
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Re: First gig with a dual lab12 T60
No not at 27", even residential doorways can handle it.
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