well I am hooked

[BlackCatOrian]

I just happened on this site last week and have been doing tons of reading and looking up stuff so, hopefully I can start on something soon.
My plan is to start off making a new bass cab that will be composed of a Jack 12 and a T30.
Any thoughts on if that would be a good combination?
I am kind of tied between the T30 and the T39 they both seem really similar but, I play lots of reggae and dub so I was thinking the extra extension on the T30 would be the way to go.
ok, that's it, give me your thoughts please I would like to start working this into my budget lol.

[Bill Fitzmaurice]

I just happened on this site last week and have been doing tons of reading and looking up stuff so, hopefully I can start on something soon.
My plan is to start off making a new bass cab that will be composed of a Jack 12 and a T30.
Any thoughts on if that would be a good combination?
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If you plan on using a sub all the time use an OTop 12, not Jack. If you don't want to always run a sub build Jack 12, one for small gigs, two for large, three for stadiums. T39 goes low enough for raggae, for dub you'd want T30.

[doncolga]

Welcome to the forum man. I've been here since last summer and absolutely LOVE it. My sound has improved exponentially since learning and applying the sub placement rules then building my pair of T30's. OT12's are in the works. I "settled" on each sub, T30, T39 and T48 at least once before I finally built. It was very hard to decide. Ended up being between T39 and T30. However, I'm convinced any properly built and placed BFM sub will just rock. You won't go wrong with any of them. Congratulations for finding the site...and yes...super addictive.

Donny

[BlackCatOrian]

I just happened on this site last week and have been doing tons of reading and looking up stuff so, hopefully I can start on something soon.
My plan is to start off making a new bass cab that will be composed of a Jack 12 and a T30.
Any thoughts on if that would be a good combination?
.

If you plan on using a sub all the time use an OTop 12, not Jack. If you don't want to always run a sub build Jack 12, one for small gigs, two for large, three for stadiums. T39 goes low enough for raggae, for dub you'd want T30.

it's for a bass guitar set up not DJ would that still be the way to go?

[Bill Fitzmaurice]

I just happened on this site last week and have been doing tons of reading and looking up stuff so, hopefully I can start on something soon.
My plan is to start off making a new bass cab that will be composed of a Jack 12 and a T30.
Any thoughts on if that would be a good combination?
.

If you plan on using a sub all the time use an OTop 12, not Jack. If you don't want to always run a sub build Jack 12, one for small gigs, two for large, three for stadiums. T39 goes low enough for raggae, for dub you'd want T30.

it's for a bass guitar set up not DJ would that still be the way to go?

Since you said it was for bass that's what my answer was for.

[BlackCatOrian]

Welcome to the forum man. I've been here since last summer and absolutely LOVE it. My sound has improved exponentially since learning and applying the sub placement rules then building my pair of T30's. OT12's are in the works. I "settled" on each sub, T30, T39 and T48 at least once before I finally built. It was very hard to decide. Ended up being between T39 and T30. However, I'm convinced any properly built and placed BFM sub will just rock. You won't go wrong with any of them. Congratulations for finding the site...and yes...super addictive.

Donny

thanks for the warm welcome!! i know lots about sound management and sound reenforcement. Worked at Guitar Center for 4 years and have helped clubs and Dj's get all set up. I'm really looking forward to seeing how good I can build this bass guitar rig and if I do a good job making a full system to support a full band at a show! so addicting yes I got lots of plans just need the cash and I'm guessing to take my building really slow and methodical.

[BlackCatOrian]

awesome!! happy i asked! the chart looks way better comparison wise thanks a lot, I don't know how I missed that.....

thank you

[BlackCatOrian]

If you plan on using a sub all the time use an OTop 12, not Jack. If you don't want to always run a sub build Jack 12, one for small gigs, two for large, three for stadiums. T39 goes low enough for raggae, for dub you'd want T30.

ok so what is the main difference between the jack 12 and the OT 12? looking at the pics they look almost identical.

[doncolga]

If you plan on using a sub all the time use an OTop 12, not Jack. If you don't want to always run a sub build Jack 12, one for small gigs, two for large, three for stadiums. T39 goes low enough for raggae, for dub you'd want T30.

ok so what is the main difference between the jack 12 and the OT 12? looking at the pics they look almost identical.

Jacks can be used full range and OTops are intended to be used as tops only (I believe about 90 hz and up), along with subs. Looks like the Omni 15 full range is a really good box for bass guitar, I'm not familiar with it though, other than reviewing the page.

[BlackCatOrian]

Jacks can be used full range and OTops are intended to be used as tops only (I believe about 90 hz and up), along with subs. Looks like the Omni 15 full range is a really good box for bass guitar, I'm not familiar with it though, other than reviewing the page.

really wasn't looking for something that big the t30 is already kinda big if built to it's full size witch I wasn't really planning on doing I was gonna slim it down so it matched up with what ever I'm using for a top. I've dealt with gigantic cabs before and I'm kind of getting sick of moving them around. before I moved this monster was my rig (the link woun't work for some reason... so it was an ampeg 6X10 with a 18 sub it sounded ok I built the sub myself lol sold it for $275.00
now I'm running a GK neo 4x10 but I'm not getting the low end I really want. plus it's still kind of big.

[DJPhatman]

BlackCatOrian, are you playing a de-tuned 5 string? Give a little example of what you play. A J112 makes my whole house shake like it's an earthquake on a drop-A tuned 5 string.

[BlackCatOrian]

BlackCatOrian, are you playing a de-tuned 5 string? Give a little example of what you play. A J112 makes my whole house shake like it's an earthquake on a drop-A tuned 5 string.

oh yeah that's exactly what I'm talking about here is what my last rig looked like but i use de-tuned 5 string which is why I'm kinda hesitant on running just jacks and I haven't seen or heard anything really proof wise a lot of what I have heard sounds extremely mid rangy and that isn't what I want at all. (lets hope my link worked lol)

[DJPhatman]

You will be very happy with a pair of J112s!

On a side note, does your band provide their own P.A.? If so, I see OT12s and T39s in your future!

[BlackCatOrian]

You will be very happy with a pair of J112s!

On a side note, does your band provide their own P.A.? If so, I see OT12s and T39s in your future!

yeah depending on how my first builds go I was totally going to go that rout. So, 2 J112s huh?? well I guess if I don't get what I want I can always build the t30 after I guess. i did notice that the OT12 can be set up for bass too with really good range coverage if I added the horns to it I think it might be a great choice too.
gonna go recycle my cans tomorrow to cover the cost for the plans. I might just buy three so I can compare all of them and see what the best option is. I'm still kind of scared to go with two jacks. i like it when I plug in and I can feel my clothes vibrating on me. I'm half deaf so that does helps to feel the note more than hear it lol.
so I don't know. i think I might just start a new thread asking the other bassists on here if it's a good idea I did see one vid posted by wallywally but I haven't got a response as to what the bassist was running on that recording. I'm guessing he was going threw the OT12 tweeterless and maybe the T39. if that's the case I'm most likely gonna go with the OT12 with the T30. i dunno I'm still kind of up in the air on it still. I still wish I could get a good comparison on the two sound wise.

[wallywally]

You will be very happy with a pair of J112s!

On a side note, does your band provide their own P.A.? If so, I see OT12s and T39s in your future!

yeah depending on how my first builds go I was totally going to go that rout. So, 2 J112s huh?? well I guess if I don't get what I want I can always build the t30 after I guess. i did notice that the OT12 can be set up for bass too with really good range coverage if I added the horns to it I think it might be a great choice too.
gonna go recycle my cans tomorrow to cover the cost for the plans. I might just buy three so I can compare all of them and see what the best option is. I'm still kind of scared to go with two jacks. i like it when I plug in and I can feel my clothes vibrating on me. I'm half deaf so that does helps to feel the note more than hear it lol.
so I don't know. i think I might just start a new thread asking the other bassists on here if it's a good idea I did see one vid posted by wallywally but I haven't got a response as to what the bassist was running on that recording. I'm guessing he was going threw the OT12 tweeterless and maybe the T39. if that's the case I'm most likely gonna go with the OT12 with the T30. i dunno I'm still kind of up in the air on it still. I still wish I could get a good comparison on the two sound wise.

I was running an Omni 12 tweeterless not omnitop 12. I was also running through the PA.
As a side note: for me, build season is getting ready to start so hopefully in a few months I'll be able to compare J12, OT12 , Dr280, and 012.