sound advice for my set up!

[Dave Non-Zero]

ive got a couple of yamaha p7000 that are light weight and run 4 t48 all night long with no heat at all. Pretty good amp i reckon. They have done me well for a few years. P5000 on the dr280 has also been great.

[bigwill]

dave i have just seen the vid of sub focus thats nuts man. and iv just realised ur in scotland as well. were down in leicestershire. please let me know if ur using the system anywhere down here. also what amps are u using in that vid?

[Dave Non-Zero]

2 p7000 on the 8 t48s and a p5000 on the 4 dr280s. we also tapped into the house Nexo tops to cover the back of the room. had to turn them down by the end coz the Crown 3600 was struggling and distorting.
I would definately have wanted to run 6 or more tops tho to coast. I had another gig on in another venue so needed gear there too.
Oh and i also ran my dual t60 on the bottom end from 25-40 running off one channel of a behringer ep4000.
He didnt play a very bottom heavy set to tell the truth. i ended up shelving the bottom end up a bit to get more down low, and still never touched a red light. booooring.

[bigwill]

haha it sounded like he wasnt playing dnb. we did a small venue the other week and used their carlsbros NOT so good as well as 2 dr280 2 tht pumping. well the plan is 8 t30s about 500w each and 8 dr280 at about 400 450w each so that would be 2 p7000 and 2 p5000. am i correct? so it sounds like unless u buy a macro tech crown are crap.

[bigwill]

also with all that what else does my rack need.

[Dave Non-Zero]

im not saying crown are crap at all. just my xls802 isnt great, i think there must be something wrong with it. the macrotechs are great, i used them on my titans once and they rocked! the 8 dr280 will walk all over the 8 t30s tho if you are playing bass heavy stuff. that show i had 8 t48 and 1 t60 with 4 280s and i reckon 6 tops would have been about right. once you get to that size rig it gets more difficult to do placement. I had them across the front of the stage and the coverage was definately lobing. i should have been applying delay to them to counteract that but i was using my driverack so didnt have that luxury.

[bigwill]

perhaps put 2 tht 36" wide aswell for good measure. also were gonna v plate the 30s 2 high where possible. do u ever bring the system south?

[Dave Non-Zero]

nah man, half is installed at one venue, and the other half is in the Dundee Student union for a regular club night i do. ( the subfocus night was a special one off in the bigger venue in the union. )

plus my van is bust and im struggling to afford a new one so my portability is down to, um, nothing.

Again, 2 THT are not gonna match 8 t30s. I reckon 1 t60 dual is about matching 2 t48 in the lower reaches. So you are going to need at least 4 THT. Probably more since the sensitivity of the THT is lower than the T60. (I dont know how to compare the graphs since the THT is measured corner loaded)

[Mikey]

Since I didn't see it mentioned yet ... make sure you have proper limiters on everything.

[Dave Non-Zero]

Me or billwill?

Im limited fine ta. No failures for years now. Apart from amps crapping out on me. grrr.
Im really tempted to pull the trigger on an xti6000...

[Mikey]

Me or billwill?

Billwill ... I figure you should already know better LOL.

[Dave Non-Zero]

Oops. 'Bigwill.' Sorry.

Mikey I thought you might be making an example of me. hehe

[bigwill]

I meant 2 tht 36" aswell as 8 t30 well I can't wait 2 get started on this better get saving. Ye transport is gonna be a pain we only have a transit at the min. So u have a dodgy xti no offence crown but no thanks. I wish I wish lab.gruppen would go bust I can't afford 6 grand on an amp. I like the yamaha p series they look good do u use the built in crossover?

[Dave Non-Zero]

It's an xls not and xti, also it was dropped and repaired in the past so that may have something to do with it.
I've not had a clean bill of health with the yamahas either tho. One of my 3 p7000s has crapped out on me and was too expensive to repair (price of a ep4000) so I just got the ep4000. also a p5000 needed repair too. I never run them into clipping so it's been annoying. I would love to upgrade to crown xti all round.

Don't use the yamaha amp crossover. You need proper processing to use these horns.
dBX Driverack or the DEQ/DCX combo.

Also you can't just run the THT along with the T30. Don't mix different horns in the same frequency passband. I did it as a test because I had the processing available to run the T60 from 25-40Hz and the titans from 40-100Hz.