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Steve Regier
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Autotuba Upgrade

#1 Post by Steve Regier »

:hyper: I love my autotuba! I drive a 2001 Econoline 15 passenger extended chassis van and put on 30k to 40k miles a year. The autotuba is mounted behind the driver's seat firing at the wall/B-pillar area. So I guess it would be wall loaded. It is powered by a Dual 300 amp ($50 at Walmart). The extension is fantastic. When playing DVD's through the Pioneer AVH-4000DVD head unit on trips the rumble is better than lots of theaters than I've visited. Everyone who has heard the Autotuba as well as myself is amazed at the extension and clarity. There is one problem. I now realize that my mains SUCK! :cussing: I have used every bit of the Parametric EQ in the head unit to get the mains on an even footing with the Autotuba. It can't be done they must be repalced. I toasted 2 MCM drivers with accidental transients while setting the crossovers in the head unit. NOTE TO SELF: when adjusting the settings for sub output and crossover TURN THE AMP OFF! :wall: After destroying another MCM I decided to upgrade to the Tang Band W8-740P driver from Parts Express. Thirty dollars more but WOW! :clap: :hyper: :clap: My 18" wide Autotube just got more present at the bottom end and less boomy at the top. I was able to move my crossover point from 80Hz to 125Hz to give the mains a hand WHICH NOW SUCK EVEN MORE! I am going to replace the mains with Infinity Reference units for now. I have planned a scaled down version of the Wedgehorn10 I call the Wedgehorn5 to mount on top of the Autotuba for use as mains. We'll see how that goes.
Bottom Line:
1. If you are able get the Tang Band it is worth every bit more cost.
:fruit:2. IF YOU BUILD AN AUTOTUBA TO USE WITH STOCK/OEM MAIN SPEAKERS GET READY TO REALIZE HOW MUCH THEY SUCK!...or better yet just plan on a upgrade of you main speakers with the Autotuba build.

:feedback: Can anyone tell me if there is a HPF I can use inside the Autotuba to protect the driver?
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TB driver mounted in opening. The larger driver was a bit more difficult to mount both from a size aspect and the big magnet kept grabbing my tool from me.
TB driver mounted in opening. The larger driver was a bit more difficult to mount both from a size aspect and the big magnet kept grabbing my tool from me.
18" wide Autotuba on the bench receiving TB upgrade
18" wide Autotuba on the bench receiving TB upgrade
Tang Band on left vs. MCM on right
Tang Band on left vs. MCM on right
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#2 Post by ewetho »

Can't wait to hear that one tomorrow!!!!

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#3 Post by Drey Chennells »

Ahpf? If your amp doesn't have one you could use an F Mod filter for about 15-20 bucks..Really sucks that you blew 2 drivers, that shouldn't happen..
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#4 Post by Steve Regier »

What is an F MOD filter and where do I get one?
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#5 Post by dheafey »

baronvonsteve wrote:What is an F MOD filter and where do I get one?
Inline high pass and low pass filters with RCA female on one end and RCA male on the other. You can grab 'em at Parts Express.
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#6 Post by Steve Regier »

Is there a filter that can be put at the driver end like a crossover?
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#7 Post by Drey Chennells »

Sure there is. But it will cost much more, lower your damping and power transfer. Passive Hi pass filter for subs are not a good idea generally.
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#8 Post by Tom Smit »

Good to hear that the AT does you good!
I knew all along that my mains in my Volvo wagon were no good. Sucks. So, like you, I have the AT helping them out a bit.
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#9 Post by trumpetbri »

What did you have to do to replace your MCM with the Tang Band? Did you get lucky - were the bolt holes the same? Or did you have to perform surgery?

I ask because I may have to upgrade the MCM in a TT I built and wasn't looking forward to it.

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#10 Post by Steve Regier »

I was concerned about bolt pattern and cutout size as well. I decided to take the chance and get the TB anyway. It turns out it was a direct replacement. No surgury was need. What a relief. :D
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#11 Post by ewetho »

The sound is much cleaner tighter and more aggressive when it wants to be.

For $30 more it is worth it.

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