Okay, okay.WiSounds wrote:+1000Monomer wrote:also, Paging John Bowman. Your input in this thread would be nice!
Sorry - between hammering out the last of the work on my first pair of DR250s, and the crazy hours of my new job (yay employment!), I haven't had a lot of time to spend online, and I keep forgetting about this.
So - It was great to meet the (in)famous WiSounds in person. Sorry I had to split in the middle of your set, but that was some gorgeous D&B you were droppin' there, man.
Now - the sound of the pair of THTs? They went DEEP. They went LOUD. They were clean, for the most part. If I were Monomer, I wouldn't regret that purchase for one second. Really guys - props on the killer sound system.
That said, here's my nitpicky sound guy commentary: (and bear in mind that I'm coming from the perspective of a stack of T36s and 15 years under my belt doing raves/warehouse parties/electronic events)
The bass was very present, but it wasn't quite at that palpable stage. I'm sure part of it was the room - that bar has almost -nowhere- to place speakers, and from what I saw Monomer found the best compromise between good sound and not having to re-arrange the entire bar layout. I'm not sure If I would have split the subs - the room was full of null and sum nodes, but it's hard to say if that's because of the awful shape of the room or the split sub placement.
It also felt a bit like the low end was lacking the tightness I'm used to from Bill's designs. I'd be curious to see how much of that was the room, how much was EQ, and how much was the absence of the driver chamber covers. It's hard to put into words, and it was very subtle, but it definitely felt like the bass kicks were more WHOOOOOM and less DOOOOOOOM, as though it was just a little smeared on the attack. I strongly suspect that was a result of the combination of the two signals - one coming directly from the driver through the access panel, and the other making its way through the horn path.
Lastly, I can definitely see why Wi felt compelled to build the kickbins. The combination of the THT and OT12 really did feel like there was a hole in the middle between the two, almost as though the OT12 wasn't even reaching to 150hz. Again - very subtle, and could have been the room (or the amp problem Monomer was having - sorry man - that sucks...). I don't know if it's something to do with the THT's upper response, the OT12's lower response, but that lower midbass just wasn't quite right.
Anyways - monomer, wi, don't take my commentary personal. Overall I'd give the sound a 85-90%, and the running average around here is about 55%. I seriously doubt anyone else in that bar thought anything other than "holy CRAP man, that's some BASS!" which is kind of the point, right?
I even doubt if most of the other sound guys around here would notice the things I pointed out above. I'm just one of those nitpicky bastards who is driven to the point of obsession in my quest for perfect sound, and specifically, perfect low end.Monomer - I eagerly look forward to your next gig in a bigger room where you can fire up 4 of those puppies, corner-loaded, and have the time to play around with the crossover and EQ to get it dialed in just right. I truly expect it will nothing short of amazing.
