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OT12's and T39's PICS

#1 Post by imnotded »

I stumbled on this website sometime in January this year. I found it to be quite intriguing, people saying that these cabs can out perform the big name brands for a fraction of the price. I thought to myself these people were crazy. If this was the case, why have I never seen DIY cabs? After about a month or so of scanning the site, I ordered the plans for the T48 and T39. I wasn't quite sure which cab I should build.

After some deliberation I went with the T39. My subs were the weak point in my setup, so that is why I decided to build one. I was using the Yamaha CW118V's with QSC HPR153's on top. The HPRs are great sounding while the CW's just get by.

I finished the T39 (3012LF loaded, 20" wide) in about a week and a half, with some help of forum members I got a few kinks worked out and fired it up at my church (I didnt feel like setting up all my stuff when I could just set a crossover and plug it in there :D ) The church holds about 120 people comfortably, and that one T39 had the walls shaking. Being a building built in the 50's or 60's there were tons of rattles coming from everywhere. Needless to say I was impressed. I was able to give it a better test when a band came in the following week and played. Their bassist couldnt believe the sound.

After hearing what one T39 sounded like I knew I needed some more of them. I ordered more parts and had another built in less than 2 weeks. I took them both to an outdoor gig that my band was playing. I didnt V-plate, just had them standing on end, side by side. They sounded great. It was hard for me to even believe that I built them.

By this time, after hearing what Bill's cabs sounded like, I decided to build some tops for my T39's. I told my band members this and the looked at me like I was crazy. HPR153's are awesome sounding speakers, just not very loud. I originally was going to build some DR250's. After looking at the plans I thought that might be a little bit out of my league. I know that I could build them, I just knew that it would take forever. So I ordered some OT12 plans. This was more my style. Very easy to build.

I ordered parts for 4 OT12's (2512 loaded with a melded array) from Leland (very helpful guy), and had the first one built in a few days. After a few hours of troubleshooting my melded array, and help from forum members again I got it working. (hint read the plans carefully, I had a wire backwards :oops: ) After getting it working and throwing a T39 under it to hear them together, I was again suprised by the sound. I could believe how these sounded. And how LOUD they get. IMO an OT12 with a T39 sounds MUCH better than a HPR153, costs less, weighs less, and takes up about the same space.

My guitarist came in and heard the combo and was blown away. Then he reminded me of a parade gig we had coming up. I needed to finish the other 3 OT12's and 2 more T39's in 2 weeks. After many late nights, sometimes until 2am I finished mounting the last of the hardware on the final T39's about 20min before we were to start setting up the float. We set up in a warehouse that is used to work on motor homes and semi trucks. It was about the size of a football field (maybe a little wider, it was huge) and the ceilings were about 30 feet high. I got everything assembled after crafting a few more cables (good thing I had some extra ends!) and fired it up. My bassist complained that stuff was falling in his hair when the kick drum was hit. It sounded great. And how loud it was. And that I built these things (4 OT12's and 4 T39's) for about $2000 total price.

The OT's outrun the T39's by a good bit. I need at least 2 more to keep up. Thanks Bill for your designs. And for your help to builders on these forums. Hopefully I can get more people to see that DIY is a way to go, that is just as good as the big names in the game.

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Last edited by imnotded on Fri May 14, 2010 6:43 pm, edited 1 time in total.
BFM cabs:

4 - OT12 (2512 loaded w/ melded arrays)
4 - T39 (3012LF loaded, 20" wide)


rockstar2568
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Re: OT12's and T39's

#2 Post by rockstar2568 »

wow, what a build. you still gotta be smelling saw dust.
i look forward to the pics and wonder what amps you run?

imnotded
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Re: OT12's and T39's

#3 Post by imnotded »

rockstar2568 wrote:wow, what a build. you still gotta be smelling saw dust.
i look forward to the pics and wonder what amps you run?
Right now I am running a mismatch of amps that I have. QSC RMX 2450 running the T39's, 2 per side, and a Crown CE 1000 running the OT12's. I am thinking of going with a QSC GX3 for the OT's and a GX5 for the Titans. Might stay with the 2450 for the titans though.
BFM cabs:

4 - OT12 (2512 loaded w/ melded arrays)
4 - T39 (3012LF loaded, 20" wide)


rockstar2568
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Re: OT12's and T39's

#4 Post by rockstar2568 »

i could see upgrading the crown... but i own a gx-5 and dont see any reason to change from the rmx 2450.
if you got the gx-5 for the tops then you could compare. i was not happy with the gx-3 running two yamaha s15IV tops. only $100 more for lots more power. just an opinion.

sine143
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Re: OT12's and T39's

#5 Post by sine143 »

How did the CE1000 hold up with the Otops? I'm running an xti 2k right now for my tuba otop combo, but I kinda want to just grab a used crown (similar to the ones Leland just sold :oops: ) to run my otops in stereo. I have a feeling with the way things are going, that I'll probably end up with 4 otops at some point hehe, and it doesnt make sense to spring for something thats going to run out of gas (lol, otops run out of gas, that will be the day).
Built:
2x Tuba 30s delta12lf loaded (gone)
4x Otop12 d2512 loaded
8x t48s (18, 18, 24, 24, 30, 30) 3015lf loaded
2x AT (1 mcm, 1 gto 804)
2x SLA Pro (dayton pa6, 6 goldwood piezo loaded)
1x bastard XF208

2x OT212 (delta pro 450a loaded, eminence psd)

imnotded
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Re: OT12's and T39's

#6 Post by imnotded »

sine143 wrote:How did the CE1000 hold up with the Otops? I'm running an xti 2k right now for my tuba otop combo, but I kinda want to just grab a used crown (similar to the ones Leland just sold :oops: ) to run my otops in stereo. I have a feeling with the way things are going, that I'll probably end up with 4 otops at some point hehe, and it doesnt make sense to spring for something thats going to run out of gas (lol, otops run out of gas, that will be the day).

It was plenty. I was driving the 2450 into clipping and still had room for the Otops. I just want something lighter and 2 rackspace rather than 3. The CE1000 is about 50lbs I think.
BFM cabs:

4 - OT12 (2512 loaded w/ melded arrays)
4 - T39 (3012LF loaded, 20" wide)


imnotded
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Re: OT12's and T39's

#7 Post by imnotded »

rockstar2568 wrote:i could see upgrading the crown... but i own a gx-5 and dont see any reason to change from the rmx 2450.
if you got the gx-5 for the tops then you could compare. i was not happy with the gx-3 running two yamaha s15IV tops. only $100 more for lots more power. just an opinion.

When I end up with 6 cabs I will need 2 amps anyway. Plus I can use the 2450 for a monitor amp.
BFM cabs:

4 - OT12 (2512 loaded w/ melded arrays)
4 - T39 (3012LF loaded, 20" wide)


sine143
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Location: Raleigh NC

Re: OT12's and T39's

#8 Post by sine143 »

yeah, I can see where you are coming from, 50 pounds is not fun
Built:
2x Tuba 30s delta12lf loaded (gone)
4x Otop12 d2512 loaded
8x t48s (18, 18, 24, 24, 30, 30) 3015lf loaded
2x AT (1 mcm, 1 gto 804)
2x SLA Pro (dayton pa6, 6 goldwood piezo loaded)
1x bastard XF208

2x OT212 (delta pro 450a loaded, eminence psd)

imnotded
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Re: OT12's and T39's

#9 Post by imnotded »

sine143 wrote:yeah, I can see where you are coming from, 50 pounds is not fun
I have a CE2000 in the same case. Sucks to move around.
BFM cabs:

4 - OT12 (2512 loaded w/ melded arrays)
4 - T39 (3012LF loaded, 20" wide)


bzb
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Location: Atlanta, GA

Re: OT12's and T39's

#10 Post by bzb »

sine143 wrote:How did the CE1000 hold up with the Otops? I'm running an xti 2k right now for my tuba otop combo, but I kinda want to just grab a used crown (similar to the ones Leland just sold :oops: ) to run my otops in stereo. I have a feeling with the way things are going, that I'll probably end up with 4 otops at some point hehe, and it doesnt make sense to spring for something thats going to run out of gas (lol, otops run out of gas, that will be the day).
I'm planning on running 4-6 OTops on the XTi 1000. I'll be grabbing a 2000 or 4000 to run 4 T39s with the 3012LF. Plan right now is to have them all ready for the Sugar Hill fall festival in October.
Bobby Shively
Purveyor of fine aged hip hop
Traktor S4 - Vestax VCI-100 - TTX - MOTU Ultralite - Yamaha 01V

Built:
T39 13" BP102, 24" 3012LF - AT - OT12 2512 - SLA Pro - T24 - Jack 10
Powered by XTi 1000 & 2000

imnotded
Posts: 130
Joined: Fri Jan 29, 2010 2:09 pm

Re: OT12's and T39's

#11 Post by imnotded »

bzb wrote:
sine143 wrote:How did the CE1000 hold up with the Otops? I'm running an xti 2k right now for my tuba otop combo, but I kinda want to just grab a used crown (similar to the ones Leland just sold :oops: ) to run my otops in stereo. I have a feeling with the way things are going, that I'll probably end up with 4 otops at some point hehe, and it doesnt make sense to spring for something thats going to run out of gas (lol, otops run out of gas, that will be the day).
I'm planning on running 4-6 OTops on the XTi 1000. I'll be grabbing a 2000 or 4000 to run 4 T39s with the 3012LF. Plan right now is to have them all ready for the Sugar Hill fall festival in October.

I would be careful running 3 cabs per side on an amp all the time. I personally would only do it in an emergency, and just use 2 amps so I wouldnt be pulling a 2ohm load.
BFM cabs:

4 - OT12 (2512 loaded w/ melded arrays)
4 - T39 (3012LF loaded, 20" wide)


imnotded
Posts: 130
Joined: Fri Jan 29, 2010 2:09 pm

Re: OT12's and T39's PICS

#12 Post by imnotded »

Pics now posted.
BFM cabs:

4 - OT12 (2512 loaded w/ melded arrays)
4 - T39 (3012LF loaded, 20" wide)


sine143
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Location: Raleigh NC

Re: OT12's and T39's PICS

#13 Post by sine143 »

3 per side isnt a 2 ohm is it? I thought 4 per side would be a 2 ohm load.
Built:
2x Tuba 30s delta12lf loaded (gone)
4x Otop12 d2512 loaded
8x t48s (18, 18, 24, 24, 30, 30) 3015lf loaded
2x AT (1 mcm, 1 gto 804)
2x SLA Pro (dayton pa6, 6 goldwood piezo loaded)
1x bastard XF208

2x OT212 (delta pro 450a loaded, eminence psd)

bzb
Posts: 1567
Joined: Mon Oct 05, 2009 4:16 pm
Location: Atlanta, GA

Re: OT12's and T39's

#14 Post by bzb »

imnotded wrote:
bzb wrote:
sine143 wrote:How did the CE1000 hold up with the Otops? I'm running an xti 2k right now for my tuba otop combo, but I kinda want to just grab a used crown (similar to the ones Leland just sold :oops: ) to run my otops in stereo. I have a feeling with the way things are going, that I'll probably end up with 4 otops at some point hehe, and it doesnt make sense to spring for something thats going to run out of gas (lol, otops run out of gas, that will be the day).
I'm planning on running 4-6 OTops on the XTi 1000. I'll be grabbing a 2000 or 4000 to run 4 T39s with the 3012LF. Plan right now is to have them all ready for the Sugar Hill fall festival in October.

I would be careful running 3 cabs per side on an amp all the time. I personally would only do it in an emergency, and just use 2 amps so I wouldnt be pulling a 2ohm load.
I hear ya, I'm leery about running amps full tilt at 2 ohms, even if they're rated for it. That's the beauty of these OT12s, though. I never push my existing ones anywhere close to their limit, so my little XTi 1000 doesn't really get worked. I imagine I won't have to run 3 on each side anywhere near full throttle unless 5,000 people show up to these events at one time... Highly unlikely :)
Bobby Shively
Purveyor of fine aged hip hop
Traktor S4 - Vestax VCI-100 - TTX - MOTU Ultralite - Yamaha 01V

Built:
T39 13" BP102, 24" 3012LF - AT - OT12 2512 - SLA Pro - T24 - Jack 10
Powered by XTi 1000 & 2000

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