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Re: New WH8

#16 Post by djtrumptight » Mon Aug 13, 2012 2:39 am

I just added a DEQ2496 to my system

Bill how do u like it ? I have been reading the manual and thinking about getting one.
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Re: New WH8

#17 Post by Bill Fitzmaurice » Mon Aug 13, 2012 6:47 am

The DEQ I love. The manual, not so much. I found the FBD instructions almost useless, not telling you that if you don't set the threshold at -40dB the Learn mode won't work.

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Re: New WH8

#18 Post by LelandCrooks » Mon Aug 13, 2012 8:35 am

Bill Fitzmaurice wrote:The DEQ I love. The manual, not so much. I found the FBD instructions almost useless, not telling you that if you don't set the threshold at -40dB the Learn mode won't work.
Holy crap, so that's the damn secret.
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Re: New WH8

#19 Post by Bill Fitzmaurice » Mon Aug 13, 2012 8:57 am

LelandCrooks wrote:
Bill Fitzmaurice wrote:The DEQ I love. The manual, not so much. I found the FBD instructions almost useless, not telling you that if you don't set the threshold at -40dB the Learn mode won't work.
Holy crap, so that's the damn secret.
If only manuals were written by Art majors instead of geeks they would be like so:
1. Do this
2. Do this
3. Do this
4. It's done

It took me a good four hours of fiddling about to decipher how to use the DEQ, and I've got 45 years of audio engineering experience to draw on. I pity a newbie trying to deal with it.

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Re: New WH8

#20 Post by 88h88 » Mon Aug 13, 2012 9:03 am

I'm glad it's not just me that thinks the manual for the DEQ is just complete shit. :lol:
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Re: New WH8

#21 Post by djtrumptight » Mon Aug 13, 2012 12:07 pm

I wasn't trying to say i have a DEQ 2496,i was trying to Quote Bills statement.That manual is the reason i dont own one now,i think i'm going to keep studying the manual to get a better understanding of it before i buy it,i may just rebuild my T 48's while i study.
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2 Autotuba's MCM 55 2421
8 T48's 24"wide 3015 LF
2 DR 250's melded Deltalite II 2510
2 DR 250's flat Deltalite II 2510
2 SLA HT systems
1 Table Tuba Dayton DCS 255-4
2 T 39's 20" wide 3012 LF
1 T-18 13" wide MCM 55 2421
2 SLA Pro's

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Re: New WH8

#22 Post by jswingchun » Mon Aug 13, 2012 12:52 pm

I haven't been back here since I posted my question. Busy building cabs and playing a show this weekend. Thanks for the replies. I think I may end up rebuilding mine to the new design sometime. My old ones were the second cabs I ever built, so they were a bit messy.
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Re: New WH8

#23 Post by SirNickity » Mon Aug 13, 2012 7:28 pm

I can't help but think, "it's an EQ -- how hard could it be?" Famous last words, eh? :owned:

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Re: New WH8

#24 Post by BrentEvans » Mon Aug 13, 2012 10:58 pm

SirNickity wrote:I can't help but think, "it's an EQ -- how hard could it be?" Famous last words, eh? :owned:
Heh... it's four different EQs... Parametric, graphic, dynamic, and feedback destroyer... and they all operate a bit (or a bunch) differently than all the other ones.

Although, I will say it only took me about 20 minutes to get the hang of it. Then again, I'm a nerd.

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Re: New WH8

#25 Post by djtrumptight » Mon Aug 13, 2012 11:24 pm

BrentEvans wrote:
SirNickity wrote:I can't help but think, "it's an EQ -- how hard could it be?" Famous last words, eh? :owned:
Heh... it's four different EQs... Parametric, graphic, dynamic, and feedback destroyer... and they all operate a bit (or a bunch) differently than all the other ones.

Although, I will say it only took me about 20 minutes to get the hang of it. Then again, I'm a nerd.

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20 minutes huh,i know whose P.M. box i will be blowing up :clap:
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2 Autotuba's MCM 55 2421
8 T48's 24"wide 3015 LF
2 DR 250's melded Deltalite II 2510
2 DR 250's flat Deltalite II 2510
2 SLA HT systems
1 Table Tuba Dayton DCS 255-4
2 T 39's 20" wide 3012 LF
1 T-18 13" wide MCM 55 2421
2 SLA Pro's

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Re: New WH8

#26 Post by LelandCrooks » Tue Aug 14, 2012 7:04 am

I had it all wired except the fbd. I never did get that thing to work. But then again, I never had much feedback with the rig. What I had I could pretty quickly notch out.
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Re: New WH8

#27 Post by djtrumptight » Tue Aug 14, 2012 3:33 pm

Leland do you still sell DEQ 2496's ?
Built:
2 Autotuba's MCM 55 2421
8 T48's 24"wide 3015 LF
2 DR 250's melded Deltalite II 2510
2 DR 250's flat Deltalite II 2510
2 SLA HT systems
1 Table Tuba Dayton DCS 255-4
2 T 39's 20" wide 3012 LF
1 T-18 13" wide MCM 55 2421
2 SLA Pro's

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Re: New WH8

#28 Post by Grant Bunter » Tue Aug 14, 2012 4:28 pm

Not used it on mine yet, but IIRC, in the manual, one thing I remember is that at least one adjustment (however minor) on PEQ needs to be made before FBD will work...
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Re: New WH8

#29 Post by Bill Fitzmaurice » Tue Aug 14, 2012 8:43 pm

Grant Bunter wrote:Not used it on mine yet, but IIRC, in the manual, one thing I remember is that at least one adjustment (however minor) on PEQ needs to be made before FBD will work...
Not quite. The PEQ and FBD share the same ten filters; you can use them on one or the other, but not both. I don't see much use for the PEQ with the 31 band graphic there, so I assigned all ten filters to the FBD.

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Re: New WH8

#30 Post by safebet » Tue Aug 14, 2012 8:55 pm

Funny that I saved so long to complete my rack with the DEQ, but often I actually leave it off. I notice that the DEQ panel gets hot after a long night, and the heat ain't coming from the Crown. If you're just running analog, it might be interesting to know that the signal will continue through it without a glitch when powered on/off. I've used results of the RTA to enter some simple corrective eq into the DCX so things sound great without it. Great to have at the press of a finger though!

I'd still like to learn how to use it more fully, especially effective use of the feedback eliminator.
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