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limiter set but dosent reach 60v

Posted: Thu Oct 02, 2025 7:36 am
by DOM THE SAUSAGE
so ive ran 0db 60hz tone into my mixer from my laptop set all knobs to unity 0db vu meter on 0db btw into my dcx 2496le xo hpf 38hz lpf 80 then out to my bass amp set the limiter to -20 db on limiter tab which gets me 60v on mm im running sb audience nero 14.7mm of xmax but when i play music my limiter kicks in at 35 volts not the 60v iv set it at what the hell have i done or what is goin on help plz :cussing: :cussing: :cussing: :cussing:

Re: limiter set but dosent reach 60v

Posted: Thu Oct 02, 2025 10:41 am
by Bruce Weldy
DOM THE SAUSAGE wrote: Thu Oct 02, 2025 7:36 am so ive ran 0db 60hz tone into my mixer from my laptop set all knobs to unity 0db vu meter on 0db btw into my dcx 2496le xo hpf 38hz lpf 80 then out to my bass amp set the limiter to -20 db on limiter tab which gets me 60v on mm im running sb audience nero 14.7mm of xmax but when i play music my limiter kicks in at 35 volts not the 60v iv set it at what the hell have i done or what is goin on help plz :cussing: :cussing: :cussing: :cussing:
How do you know it's limiting at 35V? Are you checking music after running the test tones? Does your meter have a limit hold function where you can see what it's doing? Or, are you just watching the meter? Music produces transients very quickly and your volt meter may not be catching it going up to 60V.

Need more info as far as you testing procedure to try an offer a solution.

Re: limiter set but dosent reach 60v

Posted: Thu Oct 02, 2025 10:55 am
by DOM THE SAUSAGE
im playing a song and watching volt meter never goes over 35 and the limter flashes on dsp im using multimeter and a AD16-22DSV Mini Voltage Meter they bothe never go over 35 until i start upping the limter from -20db ive alway thought music is recored in -db wehn i set my gain on car audio i do -10db on basss amps and 0db on headunit

Re: limiter set but dosent reach 60v

Posted: Thu Oct 02, 2025 11:07 am
by Bruce Weldy
DOM THE SAUSAGE wrote: Thu Oct 02, 2025 10:55 am im playing a song and watching volt meter never goes over 35 and the limter flashes on dsp im using multimeter and a AD16-22DSV Mini Voltage Meter they bothe never go over 35 until i start upping the limter from -20db ive alway thought music is recored in -db wehn i set my gain on car audio i do -10db on basss amps and 0db on headunit
Ok, so when you run a test tone with everything at unity, you have the limiter set at whatever gets it to 60 volts, right? Then you save that setting. Now you run music through the same setting and can't get over 35, right? Where is the VU meter on the mixer when you run the music? Is it still at -0- VU, or is it going over because the source material is hotter? Just trying to compare apples to apples.....

I'm guessing that something isn't getting saved correctly in the limiter or you have some settings wrong. Did you turn off all of the "soft-knee" settings, etc? I can't be more specific as I use driveracks and don't know the Berry stuff very well.

Also, would you mind using punctuation? It's kinda hard to decipher what you are trying to say in your posts.

Re: limiter set but dosent reach 60v

Posted: Thu Oct 02, 2025 11:11 am
by DOM THE SAUSAGE
ill just make a video tomorrow and upload to my youtube and post link her thanks for you help tho

Re: limiter set but dosent reach 60v

Posted: Thu Oct 02, 2025 11:28 am
by DOM THE SAUSAGE

Re: limiter set but dosent reach 60v

Posted: Thu Oct 02, 2025 11:29 am
by DOM THE SAUSAGE
thats how i set my 60v

Re: limiter set but dosent reach 60v

Posted: Thu Oct 02, 2025 12:07 pm
by Radian
DCX could be picking up the music peaks before the handheld meter is. :broke: 35V/60V voltage ratio is 4.6 dB, which is about the average dynamic range of pre-recorded music. That, or the test tone used isn't actually -0 dB FS. In that case, clipping may be occurring somewhere ahead of the limiter.

Re: limiter set but dosent reach 60v

Posted: Fri Oct 03, 2025 1:17 am
by DOM THE SAUSAGE

Re: limiter set but dosent reach 60v

Posted: Fri Oct 03, 2025 2:45 am
by DOM THE SAUSAGE
I think I've found the problem 😃

Re: limiter set but dosent reach 60v

Posted: Fri Oct 03, 2025 10:43 am
by Bruce Weldy
Well......I seriously doubt it. You were changing a digital setting in the source material. But, everthing that passes through your system is analog and doesn't know or care what the bit rate is.

But, I did notice that your readings were bouncing around - that's why we set the limiter with a test tone. You can't get a good reading with a music track.

I think you are probably in good shape. Don't worry about trying to wring out that last db - it will drive you nuts.

Re: limiter set but dosent reach 60v

Posted: Fri Oct 03, 2025 11:38 am
by DOM THE SAUSAGE
i did set it with a 0db 60hz tone but never was getting over 35v playing music now im getting almost to 60v where i want it to be idk what ive done but it seem right now maybe i just needed to boost the input channel my laptops on

Re: limiter set but dosent reach 60v

Posted: Fri Oct 03, 2025 3:27 pm
by Bruce Weldy
DOM THE SAUSAGE wrote: Fri Oct 03, 2025 11:38 am i did set it with a 0db 60hz tone but never was getting over 35v playing music now im getting almost to 60v where i want it to be idk what ive done but it seem right now maybe i just needed to boost the input channel my laptops on
That could be it.....honestly, with the small amount of LEDs on that mixer, it's really hard to tell just where you are in relation to unity....so, using it as your guide isn't going to be extremely acccurate. As long as you're getting what you want without hitting the limiter too much, you're good....go make some noise.

Re: limiter set but dosent reach 60v

Posted: Sat Oct 04, 2025 4:01 am
by DOM THE SAUSAGE
ahah yes it does make noise would you like to hear my neighbours respone to me testing in backyard

Re: limiter set but dosent reach 60v

Posted: Sat Oct 04, 2025 3:41 pm
by Seth
It's important to note that voltage meters are unable to measure music, that's why you use the test tone when setting the limiter. If the limiter is set properly (seems like it has been) and the limiter is engaging while playing music, it's working. It's the Multi Meter that is leading you astray.