Dr2xx HF alternatives (Europe ship.)
Dr2xx HF alternatives (Europe ship.)
Hi!
Since shipment from US is approx the same amount as 32 piezos, what alternatives or resellers in Europe would you suggest?
For instance:
https://www.soundimports.eu/en/grs-pz1016.html
https://www.soselectronic.com/en/produc ... 1016-52453
Anyone found any good ones?
Since shipment from US is approx the same amount as 32 piezos, what alternatives or resellers in Europe would you suggest?
For instance:
https://www.soundimports.eu/en/grs-pz1016.html
https://www.soselectronic.com/en/produc ... 1016-52453
Anyone found any good ones?
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Re: Dr2xx HF alternatives (Europe ship.)
Have you looked in the suppliers links section?
There's a whole thread dedicated to suppliers in Europe there:
viewtopic.php?t=4140
IIRC the Monacor 1016 from Thoman.de is the closest to the goldwood, and I'm not sure about now, but used to do flat rate shipping capped at 50 euro.
Thoman (and blue aran in the UK) are also the preferred Eminence distributors in Europe...
There's a whole thread dedicated to suppliers in Europe there:
viewtopic.php?t=4140
IIRC the Monacor 1016 from Thoman.de is the closest to the goldwood, and I'm not sure about now, but used to do flat rate shipping capped at 50 euro.
Thoman (and blue aran in the UK) are also the preferred Eminence distributors in Europe...
Built:
DR 250: x 2 melded array, 2x CD horn, March 2012 plans.
T39's: 4 x 20" KL3010LF , 2 x 28" 3012LF.
WH8: x 6 with melded array wired series/parallel.
Bunter's Audio and Lighting "like"s would be most appreciated...
DR 250: x 2 melded array, 2x CD horn, March 2012 plans.
T39's: 4 x 20" KL3010LF , 2 x 28" 3012LF.
WH8: x 6 with melded array wired series/parallel.
Bunter's Audio and Lighting "like"s would be most appreciated...
Re: Dr2xx HF alternatives (Europe ship.)
Hi, thanks!
Yes i've checked the thread but it's many years old now., and The topic is wide. Should be a lot of resellers selling other copies and alikes, perhaps somwone tested other brands?
Yes i've checked the thread but it's many years old now., and The topic is wide. Should be a lot of resellers selling other copies and alikes, perhaps somwone tested other brands?
2x Titan48 26" - Lavoce waf.154.00 & Emin. 3015lf
2x OmniTop15 - Em.Deltalite 2515II- FaitalPro HF107
1x Titan48 "scrappy"- 12" MTX thunder8k car woofer
1x Omni15 TallBoy - 18sound 15g700 Mon. tf0615mr
2x OmniTop15 - Em.Deltalite 2515II- FaitalPro HF107
1x Titan48 "scrappy"- 12" MTX thunder8k car woofer
1x Omni15 TallBoy - 18sound 15g700 Mon. tf0615mr
Re: Dr2xx HF alternatives (Europe ship.)
Hi, im not sure where you live, but im from Sweden and i tried the Rila SA 16 for my SLA PRO when it was on closeout on Hifikit.se
I think i gave around 1.5€ per driver, now they are 6€
Its a bit different than Goldwood/Monacor but it was a 1/6 of the price then so i gave it a shot, it also needs to reglue the driver to the horn because half of them was loose.
I dont hear any real problem with them in a array of 6, but i have no reference either...
I would like to try the GRS PZ1016 model from Soundimports.eu to compare, but never had the time yet.
SLA PRO 4X6
T60 2x20"
Labgruppen fP6400. fP2400Q. DBX Driverack PA2
TLAH
AT 20"
TRT
T60 2x20"
Labgruppen fP6400. fP2400Q. DBX Driverack PA2
TLAH
AT 20"
TRT
Re: Dr2xx HF alternatives (Europe ship.)
Ah, same here, where in sweden? I am still not sure which ones i should build from the dr200 and omni12 but if i run the grs pz1016 we could compare? I will search the web even more when its time to build and order. The ones in the links i posted seem to be copies from the older recommended HF unit so maybe they will work have you posted your builds anywhere to be seen? I live in Småland.
2x Titan48 26" - Lavoce waf.154.00 & Emin. 3015lf
2x OmniTop15 - Em.Deltalite 2515II- FaitalPro HF107
1x Titan48 "scrappy"- 12" MTX thunder8k car woofer
1x Omni15 TallBoy - 18sound 15g700 Mon. tf0615mr
2x OmniTop15 - Em.Deltalite 2515II- FaitalPro HF107
1x Titan48 "scrappy"- 12" MTX thunder8k car woofer
1x Omni15 TallBoy - 18sound 15g700 Mon. tf0615mr
Re: Dr2xx HF alternatives (Europe ship.)
Fun to find another Swede here!! I live in Örebro, Närke.Camillo wrote: ↑Fri Mar 03, 2023 10:54 am Ah, same here, where in sweden? I am still not sure which ones i should build from the dr200 and omni12 but if i run the grs pz1016 we could compare? I will search the web even more when its time to build and order. The ones in the links i posted seem to be copies from the older recommended HF unit so maybe they will work have you posted your builds anywhere to be seen? I live in Småland.
You can find my SLA PRO build under my profile i think.
Built that, and the other in my signature.
Would love to compare cabs in the future, the SLA PRO 4x6 is an amazing little cab outdoors, sound travels so much better, wider and longer compared to standard 12/1" PA tops.
You could send me a PM, easier to write in swedish
SLA PRO 4X6
T60 2x20"
Labgruppen fP6400. fP2400Q. DBX Driverack PA2
TLAH
AT 20"
TRT
T60 2x20"
Labgruppen fP6400. fP2400Q. DBX Driverack PA2
TLAH
AT 20"
TRT
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Re: Dr2xx HF alternatives (Europe ship.)
I understand.
Because of shipping costs from the USA, my last build using piezo's (3 x WH 8's) I obtained locally available Daichi 1016's, thinking they would all be the same.
They're not. The Daichi's are adequate, the Goldwoods are way better.
It's already been discovered that the Goldwood and Manacor versions are the go to types.
If you're going to compare, you have to compare to one of those 2...
Built:
DR 250: x 2 melded array, 2x CD horn, March 2012 plans.
T39's: 4 x 20" KL3010LF , 2 x 28" 3012LF.
WH8: x 6 with melded array wired series/parallel.
Bunter's Audio and Lighting "like"s would be most appreciated...
DR 250: x 2 melded array, 2x CD horn, March 2012 plans.
T39's: 4 x 20" KL3010LF , 2 x 28" 3012LF.
WH8: x 6 with melded array wired series/parallel.
Bunter's Audio and Lighting "like"s would be most appreciated...
Re: Dr2xx HF alternatives (Europe ship.)
Would These be an alternative? Reason is i can get them fairly cheap, unused second hand for about 9-13$/piece and he is selling 20 of them. Dont know if they would fit the horn. Would arraying be an option?
http://oem.ciare.com/en/440/318/prodotti.php
Does the wattage of 20w (40w) make it unusable?
Or perhaps the sensitivity?. Fs is a bit lower than asd but still in range
http://oem.ciare.com/en/440/318/prodotti.php
Does the wattage of 20w (40w) make it unusable?
Or perhaps the sensitivity?. Fs is a bit lower than asd but still in range
2x Titan48 26" - Lavoce waf.154.00 & Emin. 3015lf
2x OmniTop15 - Em.Deltalite 2515II- FaitalPro HF107
1x Titan48 "scrappy"- 12" MTX thunder8k car woofer
1x Omni15 TallBoy - 18sound 15g700 Mon. tf0615mr
2x OmniTop15 - Em.Deltalite 2515II- FaitalPro HF107
1x Titan48 "scrappy"- 12" MTX thunder8k car woofer
1x Omni15 TallBoy - 18sound 15g700 Mon. tf0615mr
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Re: Dr2xx HF alternatives (Europe ship.)
Forget them.
Because of their (lack of) power handling.
That's assuming they are like everyone else and inflate their power handling specs...
Built:
DR 250: x 2 melded array, 2x CD horn, March 2012 plans.
T39's: 4 x 20" KL3010LF , 2 x 28" 3012LF.
WH8: x 6 with melded array wired series/parallel.
Bunter's Audio and Lighting "like"s would be most appreciated...
DR 250: x 2 melded array, 2x CD horn, March 2012 plans.
T39's: 4 x 20" KL3010LF , 2 x 28" 3012LF.
WH8: x 6 with melded array wired series/parallel.
Bunter's Audio and Lighting "like"s would be most appreciated...
Re: Dr2xx HF alternatives (Europe ship.)
To try and revive this old discussion, I wondered if you ever did try out the GRS Piezos from sound imports ? Or, Is there any one on here who has first hand experience of these?Camillo wrote: ↑Thu Mar 02, 2023 8:55 am Hi!
Since shipment from US is approx the same amount as 32 piezos, what alternatives or resellers in Europe would you suggest?
For instance:
https://www.soundimports.eu/en/grs-pz1016.html
https://www.soselectronic.com/en/produc ... 1016-52453
Anyone found any good ones?
https://www.soundimports.eu/en/grs-pz1016.html
Im soon going to embark (very slowly) on a pair of dr200s for my ever unfinished 12v build, and these are less then a third of the price of the Monacors..... if i find they are no good, i think i will build with compression drivers instead.
Cheers, Kairos
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Re: Dr2xx HF alternatives (Europe ship.)
Buy one of each, compare them.
Re: Dr2xx HF alternatives (Europe ship.)
I didn't. Went with the cd-horns, second hand, instead. As I think it was Grant Who had both versions and in the end prefered them because of the 1.2khz option. I'm satisfied with them. If(when?) i build more i might try the piezos out of curiosity. Where are you located?Mishkin wrote: ↑Thu Nov 16, 2023 8:08 am
For instance:
https://www.soundimports.eu/en/grs-pz1016.html
https://www.soselectronic.com/en/produc ... 1016-52453
To try and revive this old discussion, I wondered if you ever did try out the GRS Piezos from sound imports ? Or, Is there any one on here who has first hand experience of these?
https://www.soundimports.eu/en/grs-pz1016.html
Im soon going to embark (very slowly) on a pair of dr200s for my ever unfinished 12v build, and these are less then a third of the price of the Monacors..... if i find they are no good, i think i will build with compression drivers instead.
Cheers, Kairos
2x Titan48 26" - Lavoce waf.154.00 & Emin. 3015lf
2x OmniTop15 - Em.Deltalite 2515II- FaitalPro HF107
1x Titan48 "scrappy"- 12" MTX thunder8k car woofer
1x Omni15 TallBoy - 18sound 15g700 Mon. tf0615mr
2x OmniTop15 - Em.Deltalite 2515II- FaitalPro HF107
1x Titan48 "scrappy"- 12" MTX thunder8k car woofer
1x Omni15 TallBoy - 18sound 15g700 Mon. tf0615mr
Re: Dr2xx HF alternatives (Europe ship.)
What setup woud you suggest to compare two single piezos without a cab or crossover?
hipass some music with a dsp ? then send it to them respectively making sure volume not to exceed whatever the max voltage is and have a listen?
Re: Dr2xx HF alternatives (Europe ship.)
Camillo, I am in Glasgow, Scotland ... unfortunately still part of the UK
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Re: Dr2xx HF alternatives (Europe ship.)
The crossover high pass you'd need sooner or later, so build it. Use a pink noise source, which you can get as a download. Take an RTA of each, swapping them without changing anything else. Even a freeware RTA app is sufficient for comparison. I have this on my phone: https://play.google.com/store/apps/deta ... yzer&pli=1