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OTOP 12 drivers

Posted: Thu Mar 03, 2022 12:28 pm
by scooter83
Hi again everyone,
First off, thank you to all that have given advice in my introductory thread and amp thread. If driver supply and me being able to make up my mind weren't a problem I would have a build thread going by now. I have been chasing parts for the past few weeks instead of just placing an order with the recommended suppliers and waiting for Eminece to catch up. Mistake 1. Mistake 2 is placing orders for stuff listed as "in stock" only to find out they were not putting me farther down the list when drivers become available. Go ahead and say it Bruce, you told me so. Anyway, the point of this thread- Can someone chime in on Faital 12FH520 and HF10RT ? I have been offered a deal on 4x of each for my project however I was trying to stick within the norm of what has been used successfully in the past.

https://faitalpro.com/en/products/LF_Lo ... =151050110
https://faitalpro.com/en/products/HF_Dr ... =502010150

Re: OTOP 12 drivers

Posted: Thu Mar 03, 2022 1:06 pm
by Bill Fitzmaurice
Have you checked their T/S specs against the plans?

Re: OTOP 12 drivers

Posted: Thu Mar 03, 2022 1:39 pm
by scooter83
for the woofers, yes. they are very close but don't have a rising mid response like the 3012HO which has me concerned, for the CD, I am not sure what to look at to determine if is suitable.

Re: OTOP 12 drivers

Posted: Thu Mar 03, 2022 3:02 pm
by Bill Fitzmaurice
Fs. If it's 1.3 kHz or lower it can be used with the 2kHz crossover. If it's 1kHz or lower (the F151M-8 is 1kHz) it can be used with the 1.2kHz crossover.

Re: OTOP 12 drivers

Posted: Thu Mar 03, 2022 4:00 pm
by scooter83
I can't find the Fs for that CD online anywhere. All the tech sheet has is frequency response and recommended crossover. Since the recommended crossover for the F151M is 1.8 @ 12db/oct but works well with 1.2 is it safe/ sane to assume this unit with a minimum recommended XO of 1.3 / 12db/oct would be ok?

Re: OTOP 12 drivers

Posted: Thu Mar 03, 2022 4:26 pm
by Bruce Weldy
scooter83 wrote: Thu Mar 03, 2022 12:28 pm Go ahead and say it Bruce, you told me so.
Don't need to .... you already did.... :mrgreen:

Re: OTOP 12 drivers

Posted: Thu Mar 03, 2022 4:31 pm
by Bill Fitzmaurice
scooter83 wrote: Thu Mar 03, 2022 4:00 pm Since the recommended crossover for the F151M is 1.8 @ 12db/oct but works well with 1.2 is it safe/ sane to assume this unit with a minimum recommended XO of 1.3 / 12db/oct would be ok?
I'd say so. Most drivers are rated with a 12dB filter, but we never ever use 12dB high pass.

Re: OTOP 12 drivers

Posted: Thu Mar 03, 2022 4:32 pm
by Bruce Weldy
You should check these out if you are in the NE...

viewtopic.php?f=11&t=26187

Re: OTOP 12 drivers

Posted: Thu Mar 03, 2022 5:16 pm
by Bryan Cox
I think you need to check eBay and Reverb, man. 3012HO is available in small quantity. Personally, I used the Delta Pro 12-450a. It sounds phenomenal. It's a bit back heavy and doesn't have quite the Vd that the 3012HO does. But my Otops outrun my T39s easily

Re: OTOP 12 drivers

Posted: Thu Mar 03, 2022 5:17 pm
by Bill Fitzmaurice
Bruce Weldy wrote: Thu Mar 03, 2022 4:32 pm You should check these out if you are in the NE...

viewtopic.php?f=11&t=26187
JBL horns? JBL doesn't make a horn that will vertically array in OT12s.

Re: OTOP 12 drivers

Posted: Thu Mar 03, 2022 5:28 pm
by scooter83
Bryan Cox wrote: Thu Mar 03, 2022 5:16 pm I think you need to check eBay and Reverb, man. 3012HO is available in small quantity. Personally, I used the Delta Pro 12-450a. It sounds phenomenal. It's a bit back heavy and doesn't have quite the Vd that the 3012HO does. But my Otops outrun my T39s easily
Ebay is where they were listed incorrectly, I got the only 2 that dealer could find. I will look at reverb.

Re: OTOP 12 drivers

Posted: Fri Mar 04, 2022 5:38 am
by Bryan Cox
scooter83 wrote: Thu Mar 03, 2022 5:28 pm Ebay is where they were listed incorrectly, I got the only 2 that dealer could find. I will look at reverb.
Ah, okay. There is one on Reverb, I think. Midwest Speaker Repair may have some available. There's no stock indicator on the page but you could give them a call and ask. FWIW, it allowed me add 10 to my cart and proceed to checkout without an out-of-stock notice. (I didn't buy them 😆)

https://www.midwestspeakerrepair.com/sh ... 12-woofer/

Hope you're able to get your project off the ground.

Re: OTOP 12 drivers

Posted: Fri Mar 04, 2022 9:24 am
by scooter83
Thank you Bryan, I emailed them this morning, my fingers are crossed!!!

I decided to stick with Eminence. Got crossover components and duratex on the way as well as the F151Ms and 2 of the 3012s. I suppose a trip to the lumber yard is in order!

Re: OTOP 12 drivers

Posted: Fri Mar 04, 2022 11:30 am
by scooter83
Ok Midwest speaker repair had one, ordered it. One more to go! Thanks for the lead Bryan!!

Re: OTOP 12 drivers

Posted: Fri Mar 04, 2022 9:13 pm
by Bryan Cox
scooter83 wrote: Fri Mar 04, 2022 11:30 am Ok Midwest speaker repair had one, ordered it. One more to go! Thanks for the lead Bryan!!
Not a problem, Scooter. Glad I could help.