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OT15 - XO to sub and nominal gain?

Posted: Mon Jan 18, 2021 11:49 am
by burnsze15
Two seperate questions:

1. I have folded horns curently with a top response of 120hz. For the OT 15, would a 100-110 hz XO seem pretty smooth? Building with the 3015. It seems it comes into its wheel house around 120 or so. The -3db point would be just about 120hz as I see it. Where are you guys crossing your OT12 and 15s to the subs?

2. Looking to confirm Im calculating the nominal spec gain from the KL3015 to the cabinet design gain to be about 5-6db across the 150-1000hz spectrum (average)?

I ask because I may try and use these for mids in a MTM or MMT large format modular horn project (XO to a mid/high coaxial around 500-700hz). I inagine there would be no detriment to having the comp driver disconnected in the path of the midbass/midrange propogation pattern (vs removing the CD assembly)

Thanks for the help.

Re: OT15 - XO to sub and nominal gain?

Posted: Mon Jan 18, 2021 11:58 am
by Bill Fitzmaurice
There is no advantage to an MTM, and quite a few disadvantages, compared to the coincident stock HF horn of the OT12 and OT15.
I'll leave the crossover frequency question to users.

Re: OT15 - XO to sub and nominal gain?

Posted: Mon Jan 18, 2021 1:08 pm
by Seth
burnsze15 wrote: Mon Jan 18, 2021 11:49 am ...1. I have folded horns curently with a top response of 120hz. For the OT 15, would a 100-110 hz XO seem pretty smooth? Building with the 3015. It seems it comes into its wheel house around 120 or so. The -3db point would be just about 120hz as I see it. Where are you guys crossing your OT12 and 15s to the subs?
I don't have any personal experience with the OTops. But, being a charts and numbers guy myself, I've come to realize there's not usually a one-and-done solution. The guys have been saying it for years and my scientific based mind didn't want to concede, but in the end it really boils down to "how does it sound". If it were me, I'd do exactly as you're doing. Prepare and plan. Then, try all the variations out and see if one combination stands out as better or worse.

You'll likely be fine crossing the OT15 anywhere in the range you're looking at.

Re: OT15 - XO to sub and nominal gain?

Posted: Mon Jan 18, 2021 4:01 pm
by Bruce Weldy
I high pass my OT12s at 125hz and low pass my subs at 118hz. This helps alleviate some of the build-up at the crossover point. Don't have a chart or analysis to back it up.....just tried it....it worked....been that way for years now....

Re: OT15 - XO to sub and nominal gain?

Posted: Mon Jan 18, 2021 5:17 pm
by burnsze15
Bruce Weldy wrote: Mon Jan 18, 2021 4:01 pm I high pass my OT12s at 125hz and low pass my subs at 118hz. This helps alleviate some of the build-up at the crossover point. Don't have a chart or analysis to back it up.....just tried it....it worked....been that way for years now....
Thanks Bruce great info. What slopes?

Re: OT15 - XO to sub and nominal gain?

Posted: Mon Jan 18, 2021 5:18 pm
by burnsze15
Thanks for the info.


If anyone can confirm the cabinet gain being about average 5-6db over raw driver spec from 150-1000hz, I would appreciate it. Just want to ensure Im analyzing the charts correctly and apples to apples

Re: OT15 - XO to sub and nominal gain?

Posted: Mon Jan 18, 2021 7:11 pm
by Bruce Weldy
burnsze15 wrote: Mon Jan 18, 2021 5:17 pm
Bruce Weldy wrote: Mon Jan 18, 2021 4:01 pm I high pass my OT12s at 125hz and low pass my subs at 118hz. This helps alleviate some of the build-up at the crossover point. Don't have a chart or analysis to back it up.....just tried it....it worked....been that way for years now....
Thanks Bruce great info. What slopes?
LR24 on both....

Re: OT15 - XO to sub and nominal gain?

Posted: Mon Jan 18, 2021 7:12 pm
by Seth
Here's the trace for a 3015 in an OT15


Re: OT15 - XO to sub and nominal gain?

Posted: Mon Jan 18, 2021 7:53 pm
by himhimself
Set my x-over points with a gap like Bruce although a little lower. I think 105 and 115, but not 100% sure and the driverack is buried in the trailer right now. I have T30s on the bottom, not Titans. I used the steepest slopes my PA2 has. Seems to keep the x-over range clean and clear. Play with it and see what sounds good to you, using some material that you are super familiar with.